Q: North America in Jul-Aug

Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

We have already explored many of the possibilities. We have surfed the
net extensively. We have read books about Alaska, Vancouver Island, and
I have admired Behnke's Trout and Salmon of North America. My friends
have made a two-week trip to Alaska once (in October, IIRC). I have
wetted line in Vancouver twice, but not very successfully.

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and we have concluded that we
should probably avoid those areas. The places which we have found most
promising are Labrador and Newfoundland and the Susitna region in
Alaska. However, Labrador and Newfoundland have the guide regulations,
and my friends have already been to Alaska once. We are looking for
suggestions of other possible locations and ideas and comments about any
regions over there.

We do have some money to spend on this, but we're not filthy rich. My
favorite type of fishing is small-stream fishing, but my friends like to
target bigger fish, and I have nothing against that. Unfortunately
neither stillwater fishing nor combat fishing are our favorites.

Please help us speed up economic recovery and global warming, or at
least help us survive this long Nordic winter.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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you may want to check out spots in Co, Wy & Nv .... lots of varaity
and great spots w/in 6-10 hr drives.....



On Oct 31, 9:31*am, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

We have already explored many of the possibilities. We have surfed the
net extensively. We have read books about Alaska, Vancouver Island, and
I have admired Behnke's Trout and Salmon of North America. My friends
have made a two-week trip to Alaska once (in October, IIRC). I have
wetted line in Vancouver twice, but not very successfully.

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and we have concluded that we
should probably avoid those areas. The places which we have found most
promising are Labrador and Newfoundland and the Susitna region in
Alaska. However, Labrador and Newfoundland have the guide regulations,
and my friends have already been to Alaska once. We are looking for
suggestions of other possible locations and ideas and comments about any
regions over there.

We do have some money to spend on this, but we're not filthy rich. My
favorite type of fishing is small-stream fishing, but my friends like to
target bigger fish, and I have nothing against that. Unfortunately
neither stillwater fishing nor combat fishing are our favorites.

Please help us speed up economic recovery and global warming, or at
least help us survive this long Nordic winter.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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If it were this year I would say Central Pa. water was perfect until
mid august lots of rain keep water tables up and temps cool who knows
what next year will bring proberly no water and high temps but there
are always the mountain streams.......Mane one of the carolina gents
will check in mountain streams there also....Maine waters never really
warm up......

On 2009-10-31 11:31:41 -0400, Jarmo Hurri said:


Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

Certain spots in Maine fish well in July, not so much in August. The
Rapid, Malagalawy, and the East Outlet of Moosehead Lake fish well.
Big brookies and landlocked salmon are the prey.

It's tough to fish Labrador without a guide. I've fished 3 lodges in
Labrador and I highly recommend Riverkeep Lodge -- very big water and
very big brookies, landlocks, lake trout, northern pike, and lots of
whitefish. Three Rivers Lodge is a bit more pricey, but again, the
fishing is outstanding.

If you came in June, you could spend two or three weeks fishing the
many streams of Maine - camping available at all of them.

Don't give up on fishing out West. Airfaire would add to your
expenses, but you wouldn't need a guide on any of the rivers, and I
believe they all fish well in July. Lots of camping spots too.

Dave

Make that the Magalaway River.

A week in Arkansas on the White, North Fork and the Buffalo would be a
hoot. The first two are tail waters with some of the biggest trout in
the US. The Buffalo is arguably the best small mouth river in the
world and is great for a multi-day float.
Just a warning, it is a TOTALLY different America that what you are
used to.
Frank Reid

On Oct 31, 8:31*am, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

We have already explored many of the possibilities. We have surfed the
net extensively. We have read books about Alaska, Vancouver Island, and
I have admired Behnke's Trout and Salmon of North America. My friends
have made a two-week trip to Alaska once (in October, IIRC). I have
wetted line in Vancouver twice, but not very successfully.

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and we have concluded that we
should probably avoid those areas. The places which we have found most
promising are Labrador and Newfoundland and the Susitna region in
Alaska. However, Labrador and Newfoundland have the guide regulations,
and my friends have already been to Alaska once. We are looking for
suggestions of other possible locations and ideas and comments about any
regions over there.

We do have some money to spend on this, but we're not filthy rich. My
favorite type of fishing is small-stream fishing, but my friends like to
target bigger fish, and I have nothing against that. Unfortunately
neither stillwater fishing nor combat fishing are our favorites.

Please help us speed up economic recovery and global warming, or at
least help us survive this long Nordic winter.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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I think the wide expanse of the American and Canadian West during July
and August, with some Roffians as guides could make for a once in a
lifetime experience. Perhaps flying into Salt Lake or Colorado, then
working your way North into Wyoming, Montana, Oregon, Washington, and
maybe even Eastern BC on up past 150 Mile house into the Horsefly
country etc.

Think "road trip," no big cities, big sky, your very own cowboy hats,
Jo Joes, much less than world class motels, real North Americans
etc.., and lots of challenging technical fishing, on as many beautiful
small streams and rivers as you would have probably seen in your
lives. For example you would certainly be welcome to camp and fish on
my little river farm in SE Washington for a few days.

Big fish targeting? You probably need guides, back country, planes,
Alaska, far northern Canada, money, a tolerance for present and former
corporate assholes, etc.. But I think there are a few guys here on
Roff who could get you there without some of the just mentioned
negatives.

Dave

On 31-Oct-2009, Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Greetings!...

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and

I can reallly only speak for MT Wyoming and parts of Idaho - all Northern
parts
Over the last 2 seasons we have had a heavy. late and full run off
So fishing in MT (w plenty of small streams- and bigger ones , rivers)
has been good this time of year. In other yrs July begins the start of a hot
dry 2 mo fire season where you are fishing for already stressed fish
If you can delay your decison till say Apr or May of next yr
We shoulkd have some idea of the runoff by then

Fred

"Jarmo Hurri" wrote in message
...

Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

We have already explored many of the possibilities. We have surfed the
net extensively. We have read books about Alaska, Vancouver Island, and
I have admired Behnke's Trout and Salmon of North America. My friends
have made a two-week trip to Alaska once (in October, IIRC). I have
wetted line in Vancouver twice, but not very successfully.

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and we have concluded that we
should probably avoid those areas. The places which we have found most
promising are Labrador and Newfoundland and the Susitna region in
Alaska. However, Labrador and Newfoundland have the guide regulations,
and my friends have already been to Alaska once. We are looking for
suggestions of other possible locations and ideas and comments about any
regions over there.

We do have some money to spend on this, but we're not filthy rich. My
favorite type of fishing is small-stream fishing, but my friends like to
target bigger fish, and I have nothing against that. Unfortunately
neither stillwater fishing nor combat fishing are our favorites.

Please help us speed up economic recovery and global warming, or at
least help us survive this long Nordic winter.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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That's a damned fine post, Jarmo...


John

I like July in Montana...runoff is usually over in most places and there
is every kind of fishing a person could want... i think yellowstone park
is a must see for every person on the planet...though i'm sure your
geography has its own appeal, i doubt it has anything like yellowstone.
i think your group would enjoy the area around the park... and there are
many folks that will be happy to show you around.

jeff

Jarmo Hurri wrote:
Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

We have already explored many of the possibilities. We have surfed the
net extensively. We have read books about Alaska, Vancouver Island, and
I have admired Behnke's Trout and Salmon of North America. My friends
have made a two-week trip to Alaska once (in October, IIRC). I have
wetted line in Vancouver twice, but not very successfully.

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and we have concluded that we
should probably avoid those areas. The places which we have found most
promising are Labrador and Newfoundland and the Susitna region in
Alaska. However, Labrador and Newfoundland have the guide regulations,
and my friends have already been to Alaska once. We are looking for
suggestions of other possible locations and ideas and comments about any
regions over there.

We do have some money to spend on this, but we're not filthy rich. My
favorite type of fishing is small-stream fishing, but my friends like to
target bigger fish, and I have nothing against that. Unfortunately
neither stillwater fishing nor combat fishing are our favorites.

Please help us speed up economic recovery and global warming, or at
least help us survive this long Nordic winter.