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Old November 14th, 2009, 02:33 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 13, 3:43*pm, Bob wrote:
On Nov 13, 3:13*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:





The catching was slow but the fishing was great. We had incredibly
nice weather for early November, bright and sunny and in the mid-50's
each afternoon. Which is why the catching was slow, but no matter
it was good to be on a river waving a fly rod.


The Pere Marquette had a very nice salmon run this year and I didn't
need to read the fly shop braggadocio to figure that out. There were
still salmon corpses everywhere. And Kaylin rolled around in every
goddamn one of them. Why do dogs *do* that ? Ohmigawd, the stench
was, and to an extent still is, awful.


Any suggestions for getting the smell of dead salmon out of a dog's
fur ? Anybody want to make an offer on an 18 month-old yellow Lab ? ;-)


--
Ken Fortenberry


Ken,
You may already know this, but you really need to be careful with dogs
around dead salmon. *If they eat any, they can get a very nasty
parasite that will really make them sick. *At least that's the case
with Pacific Salmon - may not apply to Great Lakes Salmon, but it
would be worth checking with a vet.

Bob- Hide quoted text -

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For sure what Bob said. Get that **** off him. Around here we always
bury salmon remains. The heads are particularly a problem, cooked or
raw they get dogs real sick . . . or dead.

I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because
they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon
are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for
their long kipes.

Johnson's wood soap, or rosemary scented shampoo is what we use when
our dog rolls around in dead crabs etc on the beach. Sometimes it
takes 2-3 successive baths to get em presentable, and then all the
oils is gone and they get cold easy. Best policy is to keep em close
when around the stinky stuff. If you catch it right away it pays to
pull the dog into the water and soak him all over right away. At least
that helps in the salt water. Good luck

dave
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Old November 14th, 2009, 02:57 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob[_2_]
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On Nov 13, 6:33*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Nov 13, 3:43*pm, Bob wrote:



On Nov 13, 3:13*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


The catching was slow but the fishing was great. We had incredibly
nice weather for early November, bright and sunny and in the mid-50's
each afternoon. Which is why the catching was slow, but no matter
it was good to be on a river waving a fly rod.


The Pere Marquette had a very nice salmon run this year and I didn't
need to read the fly shop braggadocio to figure that out. There were
still salmon corpses everywhere. And Kaylin rolled around in every
goddamn one of them. Why do dogs *do* that ? Ohmigawd, the stench
was, and to an extent still is, awful.


Any suggestions for getting the smell of dead salmon out of a dog's
fur ? Anybody want to make an offer on an 18 month-old yellow Lab ? ;-)


--
Ken Fortenberry


Ken,
You may already know this, but you really need to be careful with dogs
around dead salmon. *If they eat any, they can get a very nasty
parasite that will really make them sick. *At least that's the case
with Pacific Salmon - may not apply to Great Lakes Salmon, but it
would be worth checking with a vet.


Bob- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


For sure what Bob said. Get that **** off him. Around here we always
bury salmon remains. The heads are particularly a problem, cooked or
raw they get dogs real sick . . . or dead.

I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because
they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon
are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for
their long kipes.

Johnson's wood soap, or rosemary scented shampoo is what we use when
our dog rolls around in dead crabs etc on the beach. Sometimes it
takes 2-3 successive baths to get em presentable, and then all the
oils is gone and they get cold easy. Best policy is to keep em close
when around the stinky stuff. If you catch it right away it pays to
pull the dog into the water and soak him all over right away. At least
that helps in the salt water. Good luck

dave


Dave,

Though the Indians and Aleuts fed/feed their sled dogs salmon they
didn't just feed them Chum salmon. In many areas Reds (Sockeye) were/
are the primary species fed. I believe the name Dog Salmon is a
reference to the long canine teeth that the males (especially) develop
upon - or shortly after - entering fresh water.

Bob
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Old November 14th, 2009, 06:24 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 13, 6:57*pm, Bob wrote:
Though the Indians and Aleuts fed/feed their sled dogs salmon they
didn't just feed them Chum salmon. In many areas Reds (Sockeye) were/
are the primary species fed. I believe the name Dog Salmon is a
reference to the long canine teeth that the males (especially) develop
upon - or shortly after - entering fresh water.

Bob-


Yep that makes sense. The kipe is the "Upturned lower jaw of a male
salmon at the end of its life as it returns to fresh water to spawn."
Anyway, "Kita" (also spelled Keta) salmon is a much better name for
marketing Chum.;+))

Dave
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Old November 14th, 2009, 03:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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DaveS wrote:


I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because
they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon
are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for
their long kipes.


dave


I thought chum were called dog salmon because of their teeth?

Tim Lysyk
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Old November 14th, 2009, 02:28 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 13, 9:24*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
DaveS wrote:
I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because
they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon
are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for
their long kipes.


dave


I thought chum were called dog salmon because of their teeth?

Tim Lysyk


Dog mushers who use salmon to feed dogs usually boil them first. Some
still do it, though it's not legal. Usually out of fish wheels on
"subsistence permits."
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Old November 14th, 2009, 03:03 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:28:19 -0800 (PST), Family-Outdoors
wrote:

On Nov 13, 9:24*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
DaveS wrote:
I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because
they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon
are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for
their long kipes.


dave


I thought chum were called dog salmon because of their teeth?

Tim Lysyk


Dog mushers who use salmon to feed dogs usually boil them first. Some
still do it, though it's not legal.


Well, no **** it's not legal! The PETA people must be apoplectic...mushers
boiling dogs...they probably blame it all on the Palins...and besides, what good
are boiled dogs to mushers? Well, count me in the camp of those solidly against
any and all forms of dog-boiling.

Usually out of fish wheels on "subsistence permits."


Oh...you meant the salmon...nevermind.

TC,
R
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Old November 14th, 2009, 06:24 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DaveS
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On Nov 13, 7:24*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:

I thought chum were called dog salmon because of their teeth?

Tim Lysyk


Yep.
Dave
 




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