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DaveS wrote:
On Nov 13, 4:20 pm, rw wrote: Try this mixtu Ill have to try it on beach rotted crab. Wonder how it will do on Coyote poop and Otter slick? Otter slick, that goo they grease their runs with, is about the most obnoxious stuff in nature. Around here one of the worse things that can happen is to have some otters move under your house. Thanx Dave I don't know, Dave. That mixture is specifically designed to neutralize skunk odor. Who knows how it will work on other nasty stuff. Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Nov 14, 11:05*am, rw wrote:
DaveS wrote: On Nov 13, 4:20 pm, rw wrote: Try this mixtu Ill have to try it on beach rotted crab. Wonder how it will do on Coyote poop and Otter slick? Otter slick, that goo they grease their runs with, is about the most obnoxious stuff in nature. Around here one of the worse things that can happen is to have some otters move under your house. Thanx Dave I don't know, Dave. That mixture is specifically designed to neutralize skunk odor. Who knows how it will work on other nasty stuff. Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. The otters seem to rub **** and fishy guts on the "slides" leading to water. This seems to help keep the mud from drying out, and makes them slippery. Ive also seen it on rocks leading down from the den area to the water. Once you smell it you always know what it is. Sometimes they use culverts as part of their regular trails to deeper water, food, dens etc. The scat often will have lots of crushed shell bits in it. What Im describing is from observation and conjecture; don't know how it squares with more science based descripts. Dave You score much on the Clearwater this year? |
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DaveS wrote:
On Nov 14, 11:05 am, rw wrote: Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. The otters seem to rub **** and fishy guts on the "slides" leading to water. This seems to help keep the mud from drying out, and makes them slippery. Ive also seen it on rocks leading down from the den area to the water. Once you smell it you always know what it is. Sometimes they use culverts as part of their regular trails to deeper water, food, dens etc. The scat often will have lots of crushed shell bits in it. What Im describing is from observation and conjecture; don't know how it squares with more science based descripts. Aside from that, though, they're pretty cute. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Nov 14, 3:47*pm, rw wrote:
DaveS wrote: On Nov 14, 11:05 am, rw wrote: Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. The otters seem to rub **** and fishy guts on the "slides" leading to water. This seems to help keep the mud from drying out, and makes them slippery. Ive also seen it on rocks leading down from the den area to the water. Once you smell it you always know what it is. Sometimes they use culverts as part of their regular trails to deeper water, food, dens etc. The scat often will have lots of crushed shell bits in it. *What Im describing is from observation and conjecture; don't know how it squares with more science based descripts. Aside from that, though, they're pretty cute. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. Although it hasn't happened to me, Missouri's program to re-introduce river otters has had the unexpected consequence of cleaning out a number of farm ponds. I personally wouldn't mind, as the ponds have to be "stripped" now and then to insure healthy reproduction and species balance. But there are a number of otherwise honorable, law-abiding, sportsman- minded folks who have turned poacher when seeing an otter making off with a ten pound catfish from the backyard pond. cheers oz |
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On Nov 15, 6:22*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Nov 14, 3:47*pm, rw wrote: DaveS wrote: On Nov 14, 11:05 am, rw wrote: Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. The otters seem to rub **** and fishy guts on the "slides" leading to water. This seems to help keep the mud from drying out, and makes them slippery. Ive also seen it on rocks leading down from the den area to the water. Once you smell it you always know what it is. Sometimes they use culverts as part of their regular trails to deeper water, food, dens etc. The scat often will have lots of crushed shell bits in it. *What Im describing is from observation and conjecture; don't know how it squares with more science based descripts. Aside from that, though, they're pretty cute. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. Although it hasn't happened to me, Missouri's program to re-introduce river otters has had the unexpected consequence of cleaning out a number of farm ponds. *I personally wouldn't mind, as the ponds have to be "stripped" now and then to insure healthy reproduction and species balance. But there are a number of otherwise honorable, law-abiding, sportsman- minded folks who have turned poacher when seeing an otter making off with a ten pound catfish from the backyard pond. cheers oz- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Aside from the law, its a hard call sometimes as to killing off creatures that have some annoying habits. I'm thinking of a neighbor, and others over the years, who saw fit to shoot beavers for this or that high crime. I can see it if the beasties are flooding a house or barn or pasture in use. And Ive no special mission to the rat world. But sometimes it seems some folk just have to shoot something, doesn't seem to matter what. As a kid in NJ, I rapidly excused myself from "varmint hunting." And just as quickly decided i needed to learn how to better raccoon proof my trap-line sets. Yeah varmint "hunting" is good training for a few military job specs but . . . well my point is that there is a line, maybe not so fine a line, but a line non the less between meaningless killing and the ethics of blood sport. "You kill it, you eat it," is at least a starting place. And the native American practice of thanking the Great Spirit after a kill is a good spiritual pause moment with oneself and kids. Without ethics and reverence for the prey, its just recreational war against a weak, unarmed lesser of God's creatures. I think this applies to fly fishing as well as hunting. Dave |
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On Nov 16, 6:26*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Nov 15, 6:22*pm, MajorOz wrote: On Nov 14, 3:47*pm, rw wrote: DaveS wrote: On Nov 14, 11:05 am, rw wrote: Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. The otters seem to rub **** and fishy guts on the "slides" leading to water. This seems to help keep the mud from drying out, and makes them slippery. Ive also seen it on rocks leading down from the den area to the water. Once you smell it you always know what it is. Sometimes they use culverts as part of their regular trails to deeper water, food, dens etc. The scat often will have lots of crushed shell bits in it. *What Im describing is from observation and conjecture; don't know how it squares with more science based descripts. Aside from that, though, they're pretty cute. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. Although it hasn't happened to me, Missouri's program to re-introduce river otters has had the unexpected consequence of cleaning out a number of farm ponds. *I personally wouldn't mind, as the ponds have to be "stripped" now and then to insure healthy reproduction and species balance. But there are a number of otherwise honorable, law-abiding, sportsman- minded folks who have turned poacher when seeing an otter making off with a ten pound catfish from the backyard pond. cheers oz- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Aside from the law, its a hard call sometimes as to killing off creatures that have some annoying habits. I'm thinking of a neighbor, and others over the years, who saw fit to shoot beavers for this or that high crime. I can see it if the beasties are flooding a house or barn or pasture in use. And Ive no special mission to the rat world. But sometimes it seems some folk just have to shoot something, doesn't seem to matter what. As a kid in NJ, I rapidly excused myself from "varmint hunting." And just as quickly decided i needed to learn how to better raccoon proof my trap-line sets. Yeah varmint "hunting" is good training for a few military job specs but . . . well my point is that there is a line, maybe not so fine a line, but a line non the less between meaningless killing and the ethics of blood sport. "You kill it, you eat it," is at least a starting place. And the native American practice of thanking the Great Spirit after a kill is a good spiritual pause moment with oneself and kids. Without ethics and reverence for the prey, its just recreational war against a weak, unarmed lesser of God's creatures. I think this applies to fly fishing as well as hunting. Dave Then there is the argument that it is much more humane to drop an animal instantly with a hit to the brain or heart than it is to let it fight it's heart and soul out on the end of a line. As one who enjoys both, I can understand both sides of the story.......... cheers oz, who shoots possums on sight |
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