Q: North America in Jul-Aug

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:31:41 +0200, Jarmo Hurri
wrote:


Greetings!

Next year is a special occasion for me and some of my Finnish friends:
once again, our capacity to function decreases slightly and probability
of death increases, but this time there is some nice numerology
involved.

To celebrate this, we have planned a longer fishing trip. There are
several possible locations, including Sweden / Norway and
Greenland. However, for some weird reason some of us would be
particularly interested in fishing either in the US or in Canada. If we
would come to North America, the timing would be end of July / beginning
of August. The whole trip would take 2-3 weeks.

We have already explored many of the possibilities. We have surfed the
net extensively. We have read books about Alaska, Vancouver Island, and
I have admired Behnke's Trout and Salmon of North America. My friends
have made a two-week trip to Alaska once (in October, IIRC). I have
wetted line in Vancouver twice, but not very successfully.

If we have understood correctly, the end of July / the beginning of
August is not the best possible time to come there. In many places the
probability of warm water and bad fishing is relatively high. This
concerns places such as Vancouver Island, Montana / Wyoming / Idaho, and
Alberta and mainland British Columbia, and we have concluded that we
should probably avoid those areas. The places which we have found most
promising are Labrador and Newfoundland and the Susitna region in
Alaska. However, Labrador and Newfoundland have the guide regulations,
and my friends have already been to Alaska once. We are looking for
suggestions of other possible locations and ideas and comments about any
regions over there.

We do have some money to spend on this, but we're not filthy rich. My
favorite type of fishing is small-stream fishing, but my friends like to
target bigger fish, and I have nothing against that. Unfortunately
neither stillwater fishing nor combat fishing are our favorites.

Please help us speed up economic recovery and global warming, or at
least help us survive this long Nordic winter.

Have you considered sal****er? South Padre Island (Texas) offers some
great redfish and trout, with occasional tarpon and snook. Once you've
battled a bull red (something over 30" or so), you'll never forget it!
:-)

(remove bluegill to email me)
Charlie S.
RM2, USN-Ret.

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Hi, Jarmo

I'm considering going back to Kamchatka next August/Sept. Flights to
Moscow are about $1000 roundtrip from Boston, while the connecting
flight from Moscow to Petropavlosk is around $800. I should think that
airfare from Helsinki to Petro would be less than to, say, Bozman,
Montana.

There are several outfitters (I've used the Fly Shop out of Redding,
Cal and I'm familiar with one other, Ouzel). Seven-day float trips on
trophy rainbow waters top out at about $6,000 (including visa, fishing
license, and necessary paper work for U.S. citizens), but may be
cheaper for Finns.

Something to consider, anyway.

Also, have you considered the Kola Peninsula, just around the corner
from you. That is another of my dream destinations.

Just some food for thought. You live so close to some very, very good
fishing in wild country with no other folks except you and your party.

Dave

On 6 Nov, 05:28, David LaCourse wrote:
Hi, Jarmo

I'm considering going back to Kamchatka next August/Sept. *Flights to
Moscow are about $1000 roundtrip from Boston, while the connecting
flight from Moscow to Petropavlosk is around $800. *I should think that
airfare from Helsinki to Petro would be less than to, say, Bozman,
Montana.

There are several outfitters (I've used the Fly Shop out of Redding,
Cal and I'm familiar with one other, Ouzel). *Seven-day float trips on
trophy rainbow waters top out at about $6,000 (including visa, fishing
license, and necessary paper work for U.S. citizens), but may be
cheaper for Finns.

Something to consider, anyway.

Also, have you considered the Kola Peninsula, just around the corner
from you. *That is another of my dream destinations.

Just some food for thought. *You live so close to some very, very good
fishing in wild country with no other folks except you and your party.

Dave

Dave,

I realize you posted your question to Jarmo, but I can't refrain from
answering, mostly because the destinations you mention always was high
on my priority list.
The Kola Peninsula is next door (literally) and for me it goes beyond
consider, I actually booked a trip to go there, but then my father-in-
law (back when I was married) died and I had to cancel the whole trip.
With Kamchatka it's so that I have been trying to persuade several of
my friends to join me for a trip there, and had but one of them felt
that they could afford it I would already have gone.
Too bad it isn't feasible for me to do more than one major fishing
trip per year (time issue).

/Roger

jeff again...fix your dates and lets begin discussing options about
jeff locations and lodging.

Been having the flu for a week. At the end I had energy to read some
Lyons, Raymond and Donnall Thomas Jr. to get into the mood. I have been
fishing a number of Montana streams mentally during the past few days.

One of my comrades is trying to procreate and is thus uncertain about
his ability to take the trip next summer. He will not know his status
until February. Since I think that the probability of him having new
offspring at that time is quite high, I think I will now proceed as if
he will not join. I will contact the third fisherman soon to discuss how
he feels about this. At the moment I think that this turn of events
frees me from the earlier date constraints, which means that I could
then come to fish in the US at any time in July.

Anyway, while we are trying to reach a decision, I would like to read
more about the area. Can anybody suggest good books that would tell me
as much as possible about fishing in the Rocky Mountain region of
Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Alberta and British Columbia? I was
thinking about ordering some Robert Traver to entertain me during the
winter, and I might order some other books at the same time.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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On 2009-11-15 06:22:02 -0500, Jarmo Hurri said:


Anyway, while we are trying to reach a decision, I would like to read
more about the area. Can anybody suggest good books that would tell me
as much as possible about fishing in the Rocky Mountain region of
Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Alberta and British Columbia? I was
thinking about ordering some Robert Traver to entertain me during the
winter, and I might order some other books at the same time.

There are a number of journals published by Frank Amato Publications,
Inc. I have the journals for:

Yellowstone, Henry's Fork, The Madison, Big Hole, Silver Creek, Clark
Fork, Yakima River, Rogue River, McKenzie River, Deschutes, Kenai River
(Alaska), Sacramento River, Green River, Thompson River (BC), Rio
Grande, North Platte, and rivers in Pennsylvania, New York, and
Michigan.

They are well written by locals familiar with each river, and include
list/pictures of popular flies, maps, fauna and flora, and local
facilities.

Each journal is about $16 US. I believe they are still in print.

Dave

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:02 +0200, Jarmo Hurri
wrote:


I was
thinking about ordering some Robert Traver to entertain me during the
winter, and I might order some other books at the same time.


Traver is great (we're dissecting 'Trout Madness' in our Winter
bookclub right now
http://www.wisflyfishing.com/cgi-bin...ect=bookclubs).

McGuane is a classic Rockies author('The Longest Silence'). M.R.
Montgomery's 'Way of the Trout' takes a look at wild trout and the
American West. John Geirach's books have a lot of interesting Western
fishing in them. Then there's Joe Brooks and LaFontaine for more
technical stuff.

Lots of good stuff out there. You could just save money and spend your
Summer reading about Western trout fishing and still have a good time.


Geo. C.

Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Anyway, while we are trying to reach a decision, I would like to read
more about the area. Can anybody suggest good books that would tell me
as much as possible about fishing in the Rocky Mountain region of
Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Alberta and British Columbia? I was
thinking about ordering some Robert Traver to entertain me during the
winter, and I might order some other books at the same time.


A good book on Alberta is Barry Mitchell's "Alberta's Trout Highway -
Fishing the Forestry Trunk Road". It is availabale at amazon.ca

http://www.amazon.ca/Albertas-Trout-...8297922&sr=1-1

There is a short review at
http://www.broken-fish.net/2008/rave...trout-highway/

It is a pretty good book. The area covered would make a very nice road trip.

Tim Lysyk

On Nov 15, 9:17*am, Tim Lysyk wrote:
Jarmo Hurri wrote:
Anyway, while we are trying to reach a decision, I would like to read
more about the area. Can anybody suggest good books that would tell me
as much as possible about fishing in the Rocky Mountain region of
Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Alberta and British Columbia? I was
thinking about ordering some Robert Traver to entertain me during the
winter, and I might order some other books at the same time.

A good book on Alberta is Barry Mitchell's "Alberta's Trout Highway -
Fishing the Forestry Trunk Road". It is availabale at amazon.ca

http://www.amazon.ca/Albertas-Trout-...estry/dp/09688...

There is a short review athttp://www.broken-fish.net/2008/raves/04/17/albertas-trout-highway/

It is a pretty good book. The area covered would make a very nice road trip.

Tim Lysyk

Google up _Trout Bum_. It's the way it was, in pre-yuppie fly fishing
in Colorado.

cheers

oz

On Nov 15, 9:17*am, Tim Lysyk wrote:

A good book on Alberta is Barry Mitchell's "Alberta's Trout Highway -
Fishing the Forestry Trunk Road". It is availabale at amazon.ca

http://www.amazon.ca/Albertas-Trout-...estry/dp/09688...

There is a short review athttp://www.broken-fish.net/2008/raves/04/17/albertas-trout-highway/

It is a pretty good book. The area covered would make a very nice road trip.

I'll second the book suggestion. I've sampled a few of the waters
in there on my Canadian trips, and once I retire I hope to devote a
few years to covering that whole area. Gorgeous country and beautiful
wild fish.

Another suggestion for that area: Jim McLennan's _Trout Streams of
Alberta_. He's very knowledgeable about the area, and I really like
his writing style.


Chuck Vance (so, been fishing any recently, Tim?)

Conan The Librarian wrote:


Chuck Vance (so, been fishing any recently, Tim?)

Sadly, no. Got out on the Crow once or twice this year, a few lake
trips, and one short expedition into the Gap, but it has been a pretty
non-fishing year for me. Lots of excuses, but I guess the biggest is the
amount of travelling I had to do for work.

I did get to spend a week in Turkey at a conference. That was pretty cool.

Tim Lysyk