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Old November 18th, 2009, 05:09 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DaveS
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On Nov 16, 7:48*pm, MajorOz wrote:
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oz........"Christ, Marx, Wood, and Wei; thank you for this perfect day"- Hide quoted text -

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Interesting quote(?)
Assuming it refers to Jebus, Karl, Grant Wood and the comtempory
realist painter Wei. Is that the case?
Dave
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Old November 18th, 2009, 09:53 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
MajorOz
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On Nov 18, 11:09*am, DaveS wrote:
On Nov 16, 7:48*pm, MajorOz wrote:
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oz........"Christ, Marx, Wood, and Wei; thank you for this perfect day"- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Interesting quote(?)
Assuming it refers to Jebus, Karl, Grant Wood and the comtempory
realist painter Wei. Is that the case?
Dave


It's from an Ira Levin (Rosemary's Baby) SF book: _This Perfect Day_

It is a mantra spoken by the drug zonkered residents of a futuristic
society.

cheers

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"
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Old November 19th, 2009, 01:29 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Nov 18, 3:53*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Nov 18, 11:09*am, DaveS wrote:

On Nov 16, 7:48*pm, MajorOz wrote:
SNIP


oz........"Christ, Marx, Wood, and Wei; thank you for this perfect day"- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Interesting quote(?)
Assuming it refers to Jebus, Karl, Grant Wood and the comtempory
realist painter Wei. Is that the case?
Dave


It's from an Ira Levin (Rosemary's Baby) SF book: _This Perfect Day_

It is a mantra spoken by the drug zonkered residents of a futuristic
society.


Interesting quotes.....hm.....interesting topic. My own favorite
(apropos of nothing in particular.....except the human condition, I
suppose) in a life more or less blessedly free of favorite this,
favorite that, blah blah, comes from the quintessential American
writer; "If you find a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will
not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a
man.".....or something very much like that.

cheers


Prosit.

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"


Not always distinguishable.

g.
and therein lies food for many a wonderful and potentially productive
discussion, in a world populated by adu.......um......well, never
mind.

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Old November 19th, 2009, 03:27 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Daniel-San[_3_]
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On Nov 18, 7:29*pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"


Not always distinguishable.



Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan
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Old November 19th, 2009, 03:58 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Nov 19, 9:27*am, Daniel-San wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:29*pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"


Not always distinguishable.


Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan


Second versus, same as the firstus.

Enery
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Old November 19th, 2009, 04:22 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Daniel-San[_3_]
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On Nov 19, 9:58*am, Giles wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:27*am, Daniel-San wrote:

On Nov 18, 7:29*pm, Giles wrote:


oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"


Not always distinguishable.


Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....


Mine head spinneth.


-Dan


Second versus, same as the firstus.

Enery


Epistemologies are fun. Until someone challenges yours. Then it gets
oddly personal. The question of what constitutes "truth" or fact to a
person seems to be among the more closely-held beliefs. Right up there
with religious preference (or lack thereof) and sexuality.

My copy of Blackwell's dictionary of modern social thought is a well-
worn tome. And I still don't understand ****. But it gives me lots of
stuff to think about when I run or fish.

-Dan
(Mostly Deweyan pragmatist, with a pinch of post-modernist
inclusiveness. I think.)
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Old November 20th, 2009, 04:35 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Nov 19, 10:22*am, Daniel-San wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:58*am, Giles wrote:





On Nov 19, 9:27*am, Daniel-San wrote:


On Nov 18, 7:29*pm, Giles wrote:


oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"


Not always distinguishable.


Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....


Mine head spinneth.


-Dan


Second versus, same as the firstus.


Enery


Epistemologies are fun. Until someone challenges yours. Then it gets
oddly personal. The question of what constitutes "truth" or fact to a
person seems to be among the more closely-held beliefs. Right up there
with religious preference (or lack thereof) and sexuality.


I think epistemology is always fun, regardless of challenges. It does
indeed get personal.....but then, it certainly SHOULD be.....otherwise
it's just another bit of rather pointless intellectual gymnastics, at
best. As to the matter of "truth" versus "fact," yet another fertile
field of inquiry, conjecture, theoretical speculation, semantics and
whatnot which, in the minds of most, appears to be nothing more than
yet another irresistible stimulous for ejecting yet another endless
stream of incoherent twaddle. At the end of the day, anyone who
boasts that he "distinguishes between truth and fact," can't be taken
seriously by anyone interested in anything more than cheap humor.

My copy of Blackwell's dictionary of modern social thought is a well-
worn tome. And I still don't understand ****. But it gives me lots of
stuff to think about when I run or fish.


I don't run (did for a while in the seventies.....until one day when I
looked back over my shoulder and discovered that no one was chasing
me.....so I stopped) and haven't fished much in the last couple of
years. Surprisingly, to some perhaps, this has left me with not less,
but MORE time to think. Hasn't made any difference, though.....or
none that I've noticed, anyway.

Meanwhile, I've never actually looked at Blackwell's (still, I think I
should get consolation points for having heard of it), but it seems to
me that in a group where social thought is entirely lacking in the
majority of the most vociferous, anything and everything therein is
moot.

And THAT, should anyone require it, is even more to think
about.

-Dan
(Mostly Deweyan pragmatist, with a pinch of post-modernist
inclusiveness. I think.)


I wouldn't know how to begin describing myself. Fortunately, there
are many others willing to take up the standard and do it for me.

giles
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Old November 19th, 2009, 11:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Daniel-San" wrote in message
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On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"


Not always distinguishable.



Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan


This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...

john ..

....and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...



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Old November 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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John B wrote:

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...


Hmmmm, his price has gone up. Last time I saw rdean performing
lap dances on Bourbon Street he was only charging $250.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old November 20th, 2009, 12:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Frank Reid © 2008
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On Nov 19, 4:01*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
John B wrote:

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...


Hmmmm, his price has gone up. Last time I saw rdean performing
lap dances on Bourbon Street he was only charging $250.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!! Hold it, I think I need therapy after that
visual.
Frank Reid
 




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