OT.....on books...

On Nov 19, 9:58*am, Giles wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:27*am, Daniel-San wrote:

On Nov 18, 7:29*pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"

Not always distinguishable.

Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan

Second versus, same as the firstus.

Enery

Epistemologies are fun. Until someone challenges yours. Then it gets
oddly personal. The question of what constitutes "truth" or fact to a
person seems to be among the more closely-held beliefs. Right up there
with religious preference (or lack thereof) and sexuality.

My copy of Blackwell's dictionary of modern social thought is a well-
worn tome. And I still don't understand ****. But it gives me lots of
stuff to think about when I run or fish.

-Dan
(Mostly Deweyan pragmatist, with a pinch of post-modernist
inclusiveness. I think.)

John B wrote:

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...

Hmmmm, his price has gone up. Last time I saw rdean performing
lap dances on Bourbon Street he was only charging $250.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Daniel-San" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"

Not always distinguishable.



Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan


This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...

john ..

....and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...

On Nov 19, 4:01*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
John B wrote:

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...

Hmmmm, his price has gone up. Last time I saw rdean performing
lap dances on Bourbon Street he was only charging $250.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!! Hold it, I think I need therapy after that
visual.
Frank Reid

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
John B wrote:


...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three
hundred dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...


Hmmmm, his price has gone up. Last time I saw rdean performing
lap dances on Bourbon Street he was only charging $250.


$250??? Are you ****ing kidding me? I'd go $20, max, with a photo.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:01:30 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

John B wrote:

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...

Hmmmm, his price has gone up. Last time I saw rdean performing
lap dances on Bourbon Street he was only charging $250.

Hey, I look at the current economic downturn as an opportunity...raise prices on
the truly important stuff and folks will pay for it...but truth be told, I
always turn down the guys and the less-attractive girls - the hot gals keep me
in JW Blue and bespoke **** like suits, silk drawers, and fitted shotguns...no,
that's not a euphemism - I do so love to hunt critters...too...

TC,
R

John B wrote:
"Daniel-San" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"
Not always distinguishable.



Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan


This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...

john ..

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...




jeezus...culture should not suffer such indignity. john, if ever we
share a venue that offers such an extravagance for the senses, such
culture and pulchritude, such hedonism, such economic trickle down, and
such pure naked joy...well, my friend, i'll buy the drinks and pat you
on the back and remind you that dollars are meant to be spent, that the
platonic enjoyment of the magnificent female form...an incomparable
gift...is worthy of investment. and, as things go in my line of work,
that 300 dollars is incredibly inexpensive for such events in the life
of a married man... (um, unless there's video). i'd reckon you would
have remembered that $300, and pleasant memories have value. i doubt you
now remember where it was actually spent. g

On Nov 19, 10:22*am, Daniel-San wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:58*am, Giles wrote:





On Nov 19, 9:27*am, Daniel-San wrote:

On Nov 18, 7:29*pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"

Not always distinguishable.

Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan

Second versus, same as the firstus.

Enery

Epistemologies are fun. Until someone challenges yours. Then it gets
oddly personal. The question of what constitutes "truth" or fact to a
person seems to be among the more closely-held beliefs. Right up there
with religious preference (or lack thereof) and sexuality.

I think epistemology is always fun, regardless of challenges. It does
indeed get personal.....but then, it certainly SHOULD be.....otherwise
it's just another bit of rather pointless intellectual gymnastics, at
best. As to the matter of "truth" versus "fact," yet another fertile
field of inquiry, conjecture, theoretical speculation, semantics and
whatnot which, in the minds of most, appears to be nothing more than
yet another irresistible stimulous for ejecting yet another endless
stream of incoherent twaddle. At the end of the day, anyone who
boasts that he "distinguishes between truth and fact," can't be taken
seriously by anyone interested in anything more than cheap humor.

My copy of Blackwell's dictionary of modern social thought is a well-
worn tome. And I still don't understand ****. But it gives me lots of
stuff to think about when I run or fish.

I don't run (did for a while in the seventies.....until one day when I
looked back over my shoulder and discovered that no one was chasing
me.....so I stopped) and haven't fished much in the last couple of
years. Surprisingly, to some perhaps, this has left me with not less,
but MORE time to think. Hasn't made any difference, though.....or
none that I've noticed, anyway.

Meanwhile, I've never actually looked at Blackwell's (still, I think I
should get consolation points for having heard of it), but it seems to
me that in a group where social thought is entirely lacking in the
majority of the most vociferous, anything and everything therein is
moot.

And THAT, should anyone require it, is even more to think
about.

-Dan
(Mostly Deweyan pragmatist, with a pinch of post-modernist
inclusiveness. I think.)

I wouldn't know how to begin describing myself. Fortunately, there
are many others willing to take up the standard and do it for me.

giles

On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:18:41 -0500, jeff wrote:

John B wrote:
"Daniel-San" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"
Not always distinguishable.



Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan


This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...

john ..

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...




jeezus...culture should not suffer such indignity. john, if ever we
share a venue that offers such an extravagance for the senses, such
culture and pulchritude, such hedonism, such economic trickle down, and
such pure naked joy...well, my friend, i'll buy the drinks and pat you
on the back and remind you that dollars are meant to be spent, that the
platonic enjoyment of the magnificent female form...an incomparable
gift...is worthy of investment. and, as things go in my line of work,
that 300 dollars is incredibly inexpensive for such events in the life
of a married man... (um, unless there's video). i'd reckon you would
have remembered that $300, and pleasant memories have value. i doubt you
now remember where it was actually spent. g

Yeah, **** you - you're just ****y because you can only charge $300.00 _AN
HOUR_...

HTH,
R
.....money-maker shaker...

PS - Oogie-boogie or whatever - and you're worried about some fifteen-year-old
comments...this thread seems like it might eliminate me from reaching my
long-standing goal to be Miss California...

wrote:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:18:41 -0500, jeff wrote:

John B wrote:
"Daniel-San" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 7:29 pm, Giles wrote:

oz, who distinguishes between "truth" and "fact"
Not always distinguishable.


Positivists versus empiricists versus post-modernists versus post-
structuralists versus....

Mine head spinneth.

-Dan


This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...

john ..

...and a special thanks to rdean for not letting me spend three hundred
dollars for a lap dance on Bourbon Street...



jeezus...culture should not suffer such indignity. john, if ever we
share a venue that offers such an extravagance for the senses, such
culture and pulchritude, such hedonism, such economic trickle down, and
such pure naked joy...well, my friend, i'll buy the drinks and pat you
on the back and remind you that dollars are meant to be spent, that the
platonic enjoyment of the magnificent female form...an incomparable
gift...is worthy of investment. and, as things go in my line of work,
that 300 dollars is incredibly inexpensive for such events in the life
of a married man... (um, unless there's video). i'd reckon you would
have remembered that $300, and pleasant memories have value. i doubt you
now remember where it was actually spent. g

Yeah, **** you - you're just ****y because you can only charge $300.00 _AN
HOUR_...

HTH,
R
....money-maker shaker...

PS - Oogie-boogie or whatever - and you're worried about some fifteen-year-old
comments...this thread seems like it might eliminate me from reaching my
long-standing goal to be Miss California...


g...

but, of course, art is priceless. still, your response seems a bit
insensitive for an aspiring beauty queen. ...

jeff