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Old December 9th, 2009, 09:45 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L[_2_]
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The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod

" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."



Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride

Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL

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Old December 9th, 2009, 10:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Fred
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On 9-Dec-2009, Larry L wrote:

The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod

" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."



Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride


Your last session clinches it!!

Get your wife one as a Christmas present - anything to make it easier, more
fun and a bit special & to keep her doing it and
it would help you also

But re a wife and fly rods
I have more flyrods


Fred
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Old December 10th, 2009, 01:07 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Dec 9, 3:45*pm, Larry L wrote:
The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod

" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."

Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? * * *I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride

Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL


I've been recommending this for years. A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.

giles
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Old December 10th, 2009, 04:36 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bill McKee
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"Giles" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 3:45 pm, Larry L wrote:
The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod

" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."

Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride

Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL


I've been recommending this for years. A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.

giles

Pretty much what the yarn rod is, but the yarn rod has a better grip. I
have one I bought a lot of years ago. Virginia Woulfe, Lee's wife, was the
instigator and convinced me it would inprove my casting. She was correct,
and showed me how to improve some right there at the Cow Palace or San Mateo
fishing show. You want to borrow mine, I am in Pleasanton.


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Old December 10th, 2009, 12:37 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Dec 9, 10:36*pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...
On Dec 9, 3:45 pm, Larry L wrote:





The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod


" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."


Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride


Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL


I've been recommending this for years. *A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.

giles

Pretty much what the yarn rod is, but the yarn rod has a better grip. *I
have one I bought a lot of years ago. *Virginia Woulfe, Lee's wife, was the
instigator and convinced me it would inprove my casting. *She was correct,
and showed me how to improve some right there at the Cow Palace or San Mateo
fishing show.


A bit of a mix-up in the names, I think. Lee Wulff married Joan
Salvato. I've been unable to unearth any indication that Lee (or
Joan) Wulff ever met Virginia Woolf.

You want to borrow mine, I am in Pleasanton.-


Thanks, but I've still got some dowels and yarn.

giles.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 03:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bill McKee
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"Giles" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:36 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...
On Dec 9, 3:45 pm, Larry L wrote:





The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod


" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."


Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride


Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL


I've been recommending this for years. A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.

giles

Pretty much what the yarn rod is, but the yarn rod has a better grip. I
have one I bought a lot of years ago. Virginia Woulfe, Lee's wife, was the
instigator and convinced me it would inprove my casting. She was correct,
and showed me how to improve some right there at the Cow Palace or San
Mateo
fishing show.


A bit of a mix-up in the names, I think. Lee Wulff married Joan
Salvato. I've been unable to unearth any indication that Lee (or
Joan) Wulff ever met Virginia Woolf.

You want to borrow mine, I am in Pleasanton.-


Thanks, but I've still got some dowels and yarn.

giles.

Was not replying to Wolfbane.


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Old December 12th, 2009, 04:48 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Dec 11, 9:24*pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...
On Dec 9, 10:36 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:





"Giles" wrote in message


...
On Dec 9, 3:45 pm, Larry L wrote:


The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod


" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."


Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride


Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL


I've been recommending this for years. A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.


giles


Pretty much what the yarn rod is, but the yarn rod has a better grip. I
have one I bought a lot of years ago. Virginia Woulfe, Lee's wife, was the
instigator and convinced me it would inprove my casting. She was correct,
and showed me how to improve some right there at the Cow Palace or San
Mateo
fishing show.


A bit of a mix-up in the names, I think. *Lee Wulff married Joan
Salvato. *I've been unable to unearth any indication that Lee (or
Joan) Wulff ever met Virginia Woolf.

You want to borrow mine, I am in Pleasanton.-


Thanks, but I've still got some dowels and yarn.

giles.

Was not replying to Wolfbane.


Wrong.

O.k., so, you have no idea whatsoever who you were not replying to.
No big deal. But, do you have anything resembling a clue as to who
you WERE replying to?

giles.
who swears ta god that one of these days he's going to switch over to
a newsgroup where at least a plurality, if not an outright majority
(yeah, as if.....) of the participants speak, read, write and
understand something that vaguely resembles english......and THEN
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Old December 11th, 2009, 10:17 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Don Phillipson[_3_]
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"Giles" wrote in message
...

I've been recommending this for years. A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.


Dowels are too rigid: a rod tip section is much better
(and less likely to break during indoor use.) The right
thickness/weight/diameter of the yarn can be found only
by trial and error but this is worth the effort. If you have
enough space for the backcast, you can cast acccurately
to at 15 ft. with yarn and the timing seems proportionate to
fly tackle on the water. IIRR Lee Wulff has written on this
topic.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old December 12th, 2009, 12:34 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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On Dec 11, 4:17*pm, "Don Phillipson" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...

I've been recommending this for years. *A four foot, quarter inch
dowel with six feet (to start) of yarn tied to the tip is an
exceptional teaching tool.


Dowels are too rigid: *


So is carbon fiber.....and boron.....and ....fiberglass......

a rod tip section is much better


well, if it's greenheart, I suppose.....maybe.

(and less likely to break during indoor use.)


hasn't happened yet.....but I'll watch for it. Any recommendations
for emergency reponse?

The right
thickness/weight/diameter of the yarn can be found only
by trial and error but this is worth the effort. *


Well, if it's greenheart, I suppose, maybe. On the other hand, with a
1/4" birch dowel the difference really don't amount to a hill of soft
****,eh?

If you have
enough space for the backcast,


I do, and then some, as a matter of fact.

you can cast acccurately
to at 15 ft. with yarn


Well, to be perfectly honest, the best I've been able to manage with a
four ft. dowel and six feet or so of yarn is about ten feet......but I
am perfectly willing to bow to your vastly greater experience with
greater lengths.

and the timing seems proportionate to
fly tackle on the water. *


My experience suggests that this is true. But then, the point is
probably lost on the neophyte fly-caster. After all, this is a tool
to give him or her an approximate idea of what it's like to cast with
a fly rod on the water, ainna? If he or she is in a position to
affirm that this is proportionate to fly tackle on the water then WTF
is the point of the lesson, ainna?!

IIRR Lee Wulff has written on this
topic.


Many people have. The world would be a much better place if many
fewer had written on this topic and every other imaginable one.

giles
who, if pressed, would probably admit, long before the punji sticks
made an appearance, that he really doesn't much give a **** what
virginia has to say on the subject.
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Old December 10th, 2009, 01:59 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
george9219
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On Dec 9, 4:45*pm, Larry L wrote:
The latest e-newsletter from BRF pushes a practice rod

" We want to mention here again the Echo Micro Practice rod. This
unbelievable casting tool has been responsible for several beginners,
and even non-fishers, learning how to cast successfully the past few
weeks in the shop. And, after running information on it in this report
last week, most who have made the move and purchased one have
commented on what a fine learning tool it is! It has brought Cam,
Bucky, John, Jackie and I a tremendous amount of casting pleasure, we
are all casting better, and we are pleased to hear it has done the
same for you."

Anyone have opinions they want to share on the value of such practice
tools? * * *I suck, always have, and lord knows need practice .....
but my main idea is in the house practice for my bride

Eagerly awaiting your replies
LL


Thirty odd years ago, we used an assortment of old rod tip sections
with yarn attached to the tip in a casting instruction class. Over the
years there have been several similar products on the
market....nothing really new here. It does work for basic instruction,
but because there is no "feel", it doesn't really substitute for
actual casting practice.
 




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