Rant ...semi on topic

"Giles" wrote in message
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so, is anyone interested in how to to bring about substantial reform
in health care in america......and why it isn't going to happen in the
forseeable future? anyone? go ahead.......ask.

ok, fire away. Hell, I just gave my point of view, and specified it as such.
I'd love to hear yours.....
Tom

On Dec 19, 7:23*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

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so, is anyone interested in how to to bring about substantial reform
in health care in america......and why it isn't going to happen in the
forseeable future? *anyone? *go ahead.......ask. * * *

ok, fire away. Hell, I just gave my point of view, and specified it as such.
I'd love to hear yours.....
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

First you have to gut three or four of the largest, most deeply
entrenched, wealthiest (and therefore most powerful) and highly
connected commercial institutions in the country; insurance, health
care, pharmaceuticals, and medical equipment/supplies. Not
"reform"......gut. After that, the next step doesn't matter much
because that isn't going to happen......who would do it?

It's that simple. And that isn't a "point of view."

g.

yea, i think we used to call it "being a commie"...








On Dec 19, 7:17*pm, Giles wrote:
On Dec 19, 7:23*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

"Giles" wrote in message

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so, is anyone interested in how to to bring about substantial reform
in health care in america......and why it isn't going to happen in the
forseeable future? *anyone? *go ahead.......ask. * * *

ok, fire away. Hell, I just gave my point of view, and specified it as such.
I'd love to hear yours.....
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

First you have to gut three or four of the largest, most deeply
entrenched, wealthiest (and therefore most powerful) and highly
connected commercial institutions in the country; insurance, health
care, pharmaceuticals, and medical equipment/supplies. *Not
"reform"......gut. *After that, the next step doesn't matter much
because that isn't going to happen......who would do it?

It's that simple. *And that isn't a "point of view."

g.

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
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yea, i think we used to call it "being a commie"...

and, eventually, we'll call it the 'only viable option'.
How times change, huh?
Tom

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
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yea, i think we used to call it "being a commie"...


And your parents once thought the bundle of joy they held in their arms
would grow-up to be an intelligent thinking individual; it is amazing how
wrong parents can be, isn't it?

Op

gettin' called out is a bitch, ea?


what a laugh...






On Dec 20, 6:45*am, "Mark Bowen" wrote:
"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
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yea, i think we used to call it "being a commie"...

Is that right, mark?



" Well, you may not be able to see Russia from your house, but it's
still a
very heavenly location "

The Democrats are acting like WWII kamekazes. I don't know if they
really have a death wish (honorable or otherwise), or are just out of
touch with reality. Their contituents be damned! They will definitely
pay the price in the November 2010 elections, Michael Bennet,
Betsy Markey, Ed Perlmutter and others nationwide. Just after the
Obama election, when it was clear that the Liberals would have a
virtual Federal government monopoly, I often opined my wish that they
would trot out their agenda ASAP so they would expose their clear
Liberal agenda and intentions before the mid-term elections. Well, I'm
getting my wish for Christmas. They have absolutely out done
themselves in that regard. For that, I am extremely thankful. Let the
citizen backlash begin. Tea, anyone?

On Dec 19, 8:32*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
yea, i think we used to call it "being a commie"...



Moron.

g.

"Giles" wrote in message
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First you have to gut three or four of the largest, most deeply
entrenched, wealthiest (and therefore most powerful) and highly
connected commercial institutions in the country; insurance, health
care, pharmaceuticals, and medical equipment/supplies. Not
"reform"......gut. After that, the next step doesn't matter much
because that isn't going to happen......who would do it?


who indeed? Especially since no one would wish to live through the 'gutting'
of the health care, pharmaceutical or medical equipment industries. Therein
lies the issue I put out on these pages a few months ago: it has been a long
process getting us to the current f-ed up stage, and it cannot be quickly or
painlessly undone. It's not just about the 'connected' part, either. At
present, our healthcare delivery absolutely depends on those industries and
their ongoing output, you couldn't 'gut ' them without severely limiting
care for a significant amount of time, unless we were to 'gut' them
gradually. And that, as I tried to point out, requires an overwhelming
public perception that healthcare is a public service, not an industry.
Tom