san juan......

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On Jan 15, 6:37 am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
why aren't they in Haiti saving people?

Obviously, they want to be where you are.

Where are you?

g.

idiot....

sorry my friend... I always want to say **** like that online but no one
else will forgive me!..I'm still thinking about the small mouth
thing....any chance of getting a spring trip...meaning earlier in the
calendar year together?

I spent New Years much as you....but I was in the back yard in a lawn
chair in the city and the gun fire woke me up

john

and now it on to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrmP2jFdmsw

Op

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On Jan 15, 6:37 am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
why aren't they in Haiti saving people?
Obviously, they want to be where you are.



well...this seems as good a spot as any to post this...

"The earthquake that rocked the coast of Haiti killed or injured a
devastating number of people. Even more were left in need of aid, making
this is one of the great humanitarian emergencies in the history of the
Americas. In the aftermath of the disaster, President Barack Obama asked
President Bill Clinton and President George W. Bush to raise funds for
immediate relief and long-term recovery efforts to help those who are
most in need of food, water, shelter, medical care, and support. In
response, the two Presidents established the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund
(CBHF) to identify and fulfill unmet needs in the region, foster
economic opportunity, improve the quality of life of those affected over
the long term, and assist the people of Haiti as they rebuild their
lives and country. Presidents Clinton and Bush oversee the CBHF through
their respective nonprofit organizations, the William J. Clinton
Foundation and Communities Foundation of Texas. One hundred percent of
the donations made to the Clinton Foundation go directly to relief
efforts. Ninety-nine percent of the donations made to the Communities
Foundation of Texas go directly to relief efforts."

so...um...why is clinton's 100%, but the shrub's is 99%?? g

On 16-Jan-2010, jeff wrote:

"The earthquake that rocked the coast of Haiti killed or injured a
devastating number of people. Even more were left in need of aid, making
this is one of the great humanitarian emergencies in the history of the
Americas. In the aftermath of the disaster, President Barack Obama asked
President Bill Clinton and President George W. Bush to raise funds for
immediate relief and long-term recovery efforts to help those who are
most in need of food, water, shelter, medical care, and support. In
response, the two Presidents established the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund
(CBHF) to identify and fulfill unmet needs in the region, foster
economic opportunity, improve the quality of life of those affected over
the long term, and assist the people of Haiti as they rebuild their
lives and country. Presidents Clinton and Bush oversee the CBHF through
their respective nonprofit organizations, the William J. Clinton
Foundation and Communities Foundation of Texas. One hundred percent of
the donations made to the Clinton Foundation go directly to relief
efforts. Ninety-nine percent of the donations made to the Communities
Foundation of Texas go directly to relief efforts."

so...um...why is clinton's 100%, but the shrub's is 99%?? g

What a terrible event terrible event!!

Man - the Haitian people have been screwed over for years by everybodty from
the French to large multi natonal and American corporations.

I hope that they can truly ne helped now !

I have never been there - nor do I want to - but from what little I know of
the Haitian people they are real friendly & outgoing
Their culture of which I know very little -(like that if Cuba) is quite
dynamic)- -

I do have some great Haitian music in my collection.

Fred

On Jan 16, 1:36*pm, "Fred" wrote:
On 16-Jan-2010, jeff wrote:





"The earthquake that rocked the coast of Haiti killed or injured a
devastating number of people. Even more were left in need of aid, making
this is one of the great humanitarian emergencies in the history of the
Americas. In the aftermath of the disaster, President Barack Obama asked
President Bill Clinton and President George W. Bush to raise funds for
immediate relief and long-term recovery efforts to help those who are
most in need of food, water, shelter, medical care, and support. In
response, the two Presidents established the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund
(CBHF) to identify and fulfill unmet needs in the region, foster
economic opportunity, improve the quality of life of those affected over
the long term, and assist the people of Haiti as they rebuild their
lives and country. Presidents Clinton and Bush oversee the CBHF through
their respective nonprofit organizations, the William J. Clinton
Foundation and Communities Foundation of Texas. One hundred percent of
the donations made to the Clinton Foundation go directly to relief
efforts. Ninety-nine percent of the donations made to the Communities
Foundation of Texas go directly to relief efforts."

so...um...why is clinton's 100%, but the shrub's is 99%?? *g

What a terrible event terrible event!!

Man - the Haitian people have been screwed over for years by everybodty from
the French to *large multi natonal and American corporations.

I hope that they can truly ne helped now !

I have never been there - nor do I *want to - but from what little I know of
the *Haitian people they are real friendly & outgoing
Their culture of which I know very little -(like that if Cuba) is quite
dynamic)- -

*I do have some great Haitian music in my collection.

Fred-

I've never been there either. And I don't know anything about their
culture or whether or not they are friendly and outgoing. I've heard
that they've been screwed over by everyone......not for "years" but
for centuries. I suppose so. I don't have any Haitian music......and
if I did, I probably wouldn't know if its any good or not.....but it
occurs to me that this would be a very good time to add some Haitians
to one's collection.

giles
hey, who couldn't use a bargain in these tough economic times?

Giles wrote:
On Jan 16, 1:36 pm, "Fred" wrote:
On 16-Jan-2010, jeff wrote:





"The earthquake that rocked the coast of Haiti killed or injured a
devastating number of people. Even more were left in need of aid, making
this is one of the great humanitarian emergencies in the history of the
Americas. In the aftermath of the disaster, President Barack Obama asked
President Bill Clinton and President George W. Bush to raise funds for
immediate relief and long-term recovery efforts to help those who are
most in need of food, water, shelter, medical care, and support. In
response, the two Presidents established the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund
(CBHF) to identify and fulfill unmet needs in the region, foster
economic opportunity, improve the quality of life of those affected over
the long term, and assist the people of Haiti as they rebuild their
lives and country. Presidents Clinton and Bush oversee the CBHF through
their respective nonprofit organizations, the William J. Clinton
Foundation and Communities Foundation of Texas. One hundred percent of
the donations made to the Clinton Foundation go directly to relief
efforts. Ninety-nine percent of the donations made to the Communities
Foundation of Texas go directly to relief efforts."
so...um...why is clinton's 100%, but the shrub's is 99%?? g
What a terrible event terrible event!!

Man - the Haitian people have been screwed over for years by everybodty from
the French to large multi natonal and American corporations.

I hope that they can truly ne helped now !

I have never been there - nor do I want to - but from what little I know of
the Haitian people they are real friendly & outgoing
Their culture of which I know very little -(like that if Cuba) is quite
dynamic)- -

I do have some great Haitian music in my collection.

Fred-

I've never been there either. And I don't know anything about their
culture or whether or not they are friendly and outgoing. I've heard
that they've been screwed over by everyone......not for "years" but
for centuries. I suppose so. I don't have any Haitian music......and
if I did, I probably wouldn't know if its any good or not.....but it
occurs to me that this would be a very good time to add some Haitians
to one's collection.

giles
hey, who couldn't use a bargain in these tough economic times?

....speaking of bargains...the self-annointed far-right reverend,
pat robertson, says the haitians made a bargain with the devil. really,
that's what he said...a real, honest to badness, bargain...made more
than a century ago, and they are now reaping the consequences. so, uh, i
reckon it's all god's doing...another great heavenly lesson about
negotiations. that'll teach them to be friendly and outgoing and
musical, especially those infants and children.

jeff (busy negotiating with his own divine comedies and demiurges)

"jeff" wrote in message
. ..
....speaking of bargains...the self-annointed far-right reverend, pat
robertson, says the haitians made a bargain with the devil. really,
that's what he said...a real, honest to badness, bargain...made more than
a century ago, and they are now reaping the consequences. so, uh, i reckon
it's all god's doing...another great heavenly lesson about negotiations.
that'll teach them to be friendly and outgoing and musical, especially
those infants and children.

jeff (busy negotiating with his own divine comedies and demiurges)


Jeff,
I think the take-home message from Robertson's description should be, at the
very least, reassuring to those of us who are run-of-the mill sinners. It
seems that
God is working on a serious backlog, if he is just getting
around to rectifying pacts with the devil from the 19th century.
Tom

On Jan 17, 9:14*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message

. ..

* ....speaking of bargains...the self-annointed far-right reverend, pat
robertson, says the haitians made a bargain with the devil. *really,
that's what he said...a real, honest to badness, bargain...made more than
a century ago, and they are now reaping the consequences. so, uh, i reckon
it's all god's doing...another great heavenly lesson about negotiations..
that'll teach them to be friendly and outgoing and musical, especially
those infants and children.

jeff (busy negotiating with his own divine comedies and demiurges)

Jeff,
I think the take-home message from Robertson's description should be, at the
very least, reassuring to those of us who are run-of-the mill sinners. It
seems that
God is working on a serious backlog, if he is just getting
around to rectifying pacts with the devil from the 19th century.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Well, the right Reverand Robertson is indoubtedly right in his
assertion that the Haitians made a bargain with the devil. I mean,
****, who hasn't? But god dwells in the details. What bargain with
which devil, when and under what circumstances, and what were the
terms? Mostly (if we are to give credence to the oral and literary
canons in virtually all cultures) the devil ain't real bright, and
ends up holding the ****ty end of the stick. Thus, the vast majority
of the bargains aren't even mildly interesting. But it would be fun,
and probably instructive, to hear of one in which old Nick actually
came out on top.

Meanwhile, gods don't trouble themselves much with the private
dealings of devils. They have enough on their minds already, what
with ennervated desperation over the inevitable fate that most
assuredly awaits them all. Think about it.....personal extinction is
a troublesome enough thing to contemplate for those of us who already
know that this is what eternity invariably holds for us. How much
more horrifying must it be for those whose job descriptions carry an
immortality clause (albeit one that has never yet been adhered to.)?
When you get right down to it, most gods, being prehistoric, like most
other species, never even leave any fossil remains. They ain't got
time to be worrying about devils and humans and robertsons and
haitians......they got legacies to build, incunabula to strew about,
holy books to dictate.

The Haitians.....well, they got hit by an earthquake, a seismic event
easily explicable (if not precisely predictble) via plate tectonics.
Sad. Indescribably sad. But no more or less so than when it happens
in any other place in the world.....and no more or less meaningful.

giles.
or maybe it's fingal stirring in his cave.....i dunno.

On Jan 17, 9:14*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message

. ..

* ....speaking of bargains...the self-annointed far-right reverend, pat
robertson, says the haitians made a bargain with the devil. *really,
that's what he said...a real, honest to badness, bargain...made more than
a century ago, and they are now reaping the consequences. so, uh, i reckon
it's all god's doing...another great heavenly lesson about negotiations..
that'll teach them to be friendly and outgoing and musical, especially
those infants and children.

jeff (busy negotiating with his own divine comedies and demiurges)

Jeff,
I think the take-home message from Robertson's description should be, at the
very least, reassuring to those of us who are run-of-the mill sinners. It
seems that
God is working on a serious backlog, if he is just getting
around to rectifying pacts with the devil from the 19th century.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Anyone have an actual link to what Robertson said -- not to what
someone said what he said ?

thanx

oz, who always prefers primary sources

the bush team dosn't lie and knows about accounting.......


On Jan 16, 10:57*am, sgr wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:39:27 -0500, jeff
wrote:

so...um...why is clinton's 100%, but the shrub's is 99%?? *g

They misunderestimated expensivesures.

On Jan 16, 10:25*am, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:
the bush team dosn't lie and knows about accounting.......

On Jan 16, 10:57*am, sgr wrote:



On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:39:27 -0500, jeff
wrote:

so...um...why is clinton's 100%, but the shrub's is 99%?? *g

They misunderestimated expensivesures.- Hide quoted text -

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Another explanation could be that the Clinton foundation has been
around longer and Clnton has had longer to raise funds to cover his
nut, (No pun intended) and he has been very successful as a fund
raiser. Bush has had only a year and has had a a slow start on the
lecture circuit. 1% isn't bad. And him pairing with Clinton is a good
thing both for Bush and for some healing to occur. I think Bush was
used by the radicals and the Neocons far more than he used them, and
Cheney, I believe history will show, was very disloyal and conniving.

Dave