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On Feb 5, 2:55*pm, a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? ..Don't know yet. Let's take a look at it, shall we? Thanks. You're quite welcome. ______________________________ Dear Mr XXXXX AH! Unless you name actually is XXXXX, I'd say your chances of being reinstated look very good right from the outset! Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the Committee at their most recent meeting. O.k., on the face of it, refusing to contact the acting secretary doesn't look good. Sort of suggests contempt.....or at least an unexplained indifference. Still, neither of those feelings is ouright illegal.....in most places. For now, let's continue and see where this all leads. After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season will be refused. Here's something we can work with. The unnamed "Committee" (we can definitely use their anonymity to our advantage.....more on that later.....maybe) has evidently viewed "several examples" of what we can only suppose to be their own correspondence, given the wording of the previous sentence. Sure, one COULD hold to the position that they were referencing alleged calls and/or emails initiated by your august self, but any court in its collective right mind would throw that out on the grounds of senseless ambiguity. One can hardly be held at fault for replying with a hearty (and heartfelt) so what?.....or not.....which would, or at least should, convey precisely the same message. The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have chosen to decline the offer. The "Committee" can scarcely be in a position to know whether the alleged opportunities they claim to have given are, or were, "ample." In point of fact, the lack of response rather suggests otherwise, ainna? As to the allegation that "you have chosen to decline the offer," this is pure speculation, unsustantiated by a single shred of evidence. It is equally plausible, in the absence of anything resembling evidence to the contrary, that you were prevented from responding by forces utterly beyond your control. For instance, it remains in doubt (as pointed out above) whether or not you ever received any calls, emails, or other correspondence from the mysterious "Committee." With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further opportunity should be extended. Feelings do not enter into the matter......or shouldn't, anyway. The courts have, for centuries, been quite clear on this point. What matters is a cool-headed application of reason to the interpretation of the law. If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr Chairman on 078******** "Mr Chairman"? This just plain strains credulity! How likely is it that the chairman of the still unidentified "Committee" is actually named Chairman? Not impossible, I admit, but I remain skeptical. Meanwhile, I just dialed 078********. No one answered the phone. Not surprising, some might say, given that the usage found thus far in this sad saga suggests it is taking place somewhere to the east of the pond where it is now sometime in the wee hours of Saturday morning, but you'd think they'd at least have voicemail or something like that by now.....right? I mean, civilization has at least made a perfunctory visit or two to the hallowed isles on occasion over the past couple of centuries.....or not? Regards Mr Bloggs Bloggs.....Bloggs.....hm......aren't they related to the Bagginses over by twiddly under the whatsit? Acting Secretary of the Association Ah! An actor! Oh, we are going to have SUCH an easy time with this! ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()() Hm..... Your computer seems to have been invaded by quagga mussels. Sorry, not much I can do to help you with this problem. Hey, wait! I've got a friend over at the Department of Natural Resources. I'll give him a call and get back to you. O.k.? This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary. Actually, a close reading reveals that it does a whole lot more.....and less.....than that. But then, that's exactly why you have sought our assitance on this rather ticklish matter, isn't it? At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary, No, but what the hell, it might not have been an entirely bad idea anyway.....right? Hell, everybody likes to get a call from old friends once in a while. You know, just keep in touch, how ya doin', that kind of thing. I mean, would it abso****inlutely KILL somebody to call his ****in' brother on his ****in' birthday and just say hi how ya doin?! ![]() so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do could be grounds for suspension. Well, there could be a clause which states just that. Do you happen to have a copy of the bylaws you could fax to us at our earliest convenience? Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour". Uh huh, we know how much it can hurt to not be asked. O.k., go ahead.....explain your behavior. Go on......we're listening. The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my membership. True, but that could simply be becuase they have the authority to not tell you what authority they have to suspend your membership. These things (as should be clear by now) can get pretty complicated. And that's precisely why you came to us.....right? So, don't worry, we'll get it all sorted out for you. The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees. Um.....you haven't told us anything about fees. The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are. Good point. However, since we don't know what committee it is, the membership would appear to be moot. The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision. You may rest assured that this end of the matter may be left safely in our hands.....should we come to an understanding that our involvement is in our mutual best interest ($$$). In the meantime, don't fret your pretty little head over it.....o.k.? The letter does not have a return address. Doesn't matter. It probably wouldn't do us any more good than the phone number above. The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination Well, it's a sure enough curiosity, anyway. But you should probably refrain from making strong statements (or any statements at all, for that matter) until we have met with the scurrilous *******s and sorted some of this tedious **** out. O.k.? and typical of the secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down. The directionality (assuming any such exists) of the rot is not germain. The point is to root it out regardless and get the loo.....um......seek justice for all. Have I really been suspended?????? Well, when you look toward your feet, do you see ceiling or floor? Thanks You're welcome. giles for The Company |
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On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? Thanks. ______________________________ Dear Mr XXXXX Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the Committee at their most recent meeting. After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season will be refused. The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have chosen to decline the offer. With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further opportunity should be extended. If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr Chairman on 078******** Regards Mr Bloggs Acting Secretary of the Association ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()() This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary. At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary, so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do could be grounds for suspension. Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour". The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my membership. The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees. The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are. The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision. The letter does not have a return address. The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down. Have I really been suspended?????? Thanks Surely in the time it took you to type all this stuff in, you could have called the person in the letter, spoken to them (acting all mystified: "email - wot email? gosh it must have got lost in my SPAM filter. Now, what was it you wanted to talk about") in your sweetest manner and sorted the situation out. It's hardly something to get all hot 'n' heavy about on a newsgroup. |
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![]() Have I really been suspended?????? Thanks Yes. Think of it more as an opportunity than a suspension. More as that good feeling after a fine meal. And please, take a packet. If you have any questions whatsoever please feel free to consult the packet. It's all explained in the packet. I will need to have your building pass now. Yes, Now. Please let Officer Detail help you clear your personal items from the workstation and get you a cab. On us. Think of this as a new beginning. Like a new tommorrow, only today. Good. |
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On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse
wrote: I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? Yes, under orders from MI5. I'd suggest that you cross-post to every mother****ing newsgroup currently active about it all...you'll be a legend. HTH, Double-Naught Dickie Shaken, Not Stirred ....well, OK, so not so much a "legend" as a "laughingstock," but hey, you'll be almost as famous as Mike Connor... |
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![]() "a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message ... I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? Thanks. ______________________________ Dear Mr XXXXX Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the Committee at their most recent meeting. After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season will be refused. The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have chosen to decline the offer. With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further opportunity should be extended. If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr Chairman on 078******** Regards Mr Bloggs Acting Secretary of the Association ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()() This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary. At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary, so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do could be grounds for suspension. Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour". The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my membership. The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees. The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are. The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision. The letter does not have a return address. The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down. Have I really been suspended?????? Thanks Have gun, will travel. Wire Asadi, via ROFF. |
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![]() "a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message ... I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? Thanks. ______________________________ Dear Mr XXXXX Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the Committee at their most recent meeting. After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season will be refused. The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have chosen to decline the offer. With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further opportunity should be extended. If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr Chairman on 078******** Regards Mr Bloggs Acting Secretary of the Association ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()() This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary. At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary, so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do could be grounds for suspension. Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour". The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my membership. The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees. The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are. The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision. The letter does not have a return address. The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down. Have I really been suspended?????? Thanks Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as a member? Steve |
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On Feb 7, 12:56*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message ... I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? Thanks. ______________________________ Dear Mr XXXXX Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the Committee at their most recent meeting. After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season will be refused. The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have chosen to decline the offer. With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further opportunity should be extended. If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr Chairman on 078******** Regards Mr Bloggs Acting Secretary of the Association ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()() This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary. At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary, so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do could be grounds for suspension. Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour". The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my membership. The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees. The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are. The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision. The letter does not have a return address. The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down. Have I really been suspended?????? Thanks Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as a member? Steve Yeah, but now that he's been suspended, its exactly his type of club! --riverman |
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![]() "riverman" wrote in message ... On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "Steve B" wrote: "a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message ... I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may not now be a member of. Have I been suspended??? Thanks. ______________________________ Dear Mr XXXXX Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the Committee at their most recent meeting. After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season will be refused. The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have chosen to decline the offer. With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further opportunity should be extended. If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr Chairman on 078******** Regards Mr Bloggs Acting Secretary of the Association ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()() This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary. At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary, so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do could be grounds for suspension. Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour". The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my membership. The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees. The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are. The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision. The letter does not have a return address. The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down. Have I really been suspended?????? Thanks Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as a member? Steve Yeah, but now that he's been suspended, its exactly his type of club! --riverman This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand........... john |
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