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On 3/31/2010 6:50 PM, David LaCourse wrote:
Is there anyone on earth more stupid than you? Yeah, I can name a whole bunch in this nuthouse that voted for Obama. ....and, i'll vote for him again. jeff (proud of my president...been a while since i felt that way) |
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:31:47 -0400, jeff wrote:
On 3/31/2010 6:50 PM, David LaCourse wrote: Is there anyone on earth more stupid than you? Yeah, I can name a whole bunch in this nuthouse that voted for Obama. ...and, i'll vote for him again. Ah...proving that "stupid friend in NC, " I take it... Seriously, though, why in the hell would you state such a thing, not even halfway through his Presidency? Oh, yeah, that's right - I forgot about you and Johnny Breck... jeff (proud of my president...been a while since i felt that way) FWIW, Bush had substantially higher approval ratings for a longer time than Obama...and that's when he was getting unto into Iraq and Afghanistan...you know, them there places Obama SWORE he'd get the **** out of about 13 seconds after he got into office... And I'll ask yet again - name 10...hell, 5...truly important things he's accomplished.for the US citizenry as a direct result of his being in office...IOW, **** he personally has accomplished. Hell, just list 5 reasons you'd vote for him again regardless of what else might follow. While I can't say he's done a _bad_ job, I can't he's done a good one either. Near as I can figure, he hasn't done _anything" significant...and I'll even ignore the whole "health care bill" debacle, because at the end of the day, it - as it currently stands - won't actually do much, if anything at all, in the big scheme of things. HTH, R |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 02:16:17 GMT, "Fred" wrote:
On 1-Apr-2010, wrote: Near as I can figure, he hasn't done _anything" significant...and I'll even ignore the whole "health care bill" debacle, into Iraq and Afghanistan...you know, them there places Obama SWORE he'd get the **** out of about 13 seconds after he got into office... I have come to the conclusion that Obama has no power and is a lying ****bag like all politicians Whoa, now - I never said, nor do I think that Obama is a (or "all politicians" are) "lying ****bag(s)" - that said, you are perfectly entitled to your rather extreme opinion. Now, if you had said that he was just another politician whose mouth often greatly overloads his ass, we'd be in complete agreement. I said it then, and I'll say it again now - I see nothing special whatsoever about Obama with the exception of his being the first (known, obvious) bi-racial POTUS. Other than that, from everything I've seen and heard, he's just another (pre-freakout) Britney Spears pop-pol who happened to really hit the jackpot. Bush had more "true core" and Clinton had, by leaps and bounds, a better mind AND better political instincts. He's the left's answer to Reagan, but at least Ronnie managed to futz around and accomplish a few things between all the whip-'em-up empty speeches - his "tear down this wall" shtick, while in and of itself, was pretty much rhetoric, but he was also among the more prominent _public_ reasons that it did come down. We live in an oligarchy where the masters of war - must protect their inverstments Take out "of war" and yep, you pretty much have it - were you expecting something else...? I mean, it's the way the world works. War is great biz hence increasing troop strength in Afghanistan while doing little in Iraq except mainrtaining the status quo is grea t Dropping bombs that cost millions and we will replace w more millions $$$$$ ****in great business I dealt w guys who make miltary uniforms Some proft!!! No bid contracts llike Haliburton? Do we really expect to win these wars ? In Afghanistan come on!!!!! We could be there 50 yrs and they would only hate us more Um, who is this "they?" A fair portion of the Afghanis LOVE the US...I mean, if a rich stranger walked up to you and said, "Ya know, Freddie my lad, I just like the cut of your jib - howsabout I support you in a manner you'll really become accustomed to...here's a no-limit credit card - go abso-****in'-lutely nuts and don't worry about it - we don't pay the bills on it, anyway..." how would you feel about your new best buddy...? Then, there is his environmental promises and statements to the contary - he has as of yesterday increased off shore drilling thereby further destroying our planet Um, well, the short answer is, "No, not really..." If it's done properly, you drill in literally your own back yard with no real impact. When we pollute the oceans and kill tthe rivers we can NEVER undo this. Um, well, again, no. And in many cases, what "we" cannot undo, "nature" will undo whether we wish it to or not... Humans can create things but they cannot create healthy rivers and lakes OK. So why did you believe him or anyone else when they said they could...? Obama is just one in a long line of self-aggrandizing ****balls Just another politico w loud intentions and little substance Again, IMO, "no" on the former, "yeah, pretty much" on the latter...again, though, what made you expect otherwise? Hence as our chickens say Cluuuuuuuk Cluluuuuk Cluuuck I speak to chickens ! I am the chicken whisperer!!!! Frank Purdue TC, R |
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On 4/1/2010 9:44 PM, wrote:
...and, i'll vote for him again. Ah...proving that "stupid friend in NC, " I take it... it's apparent there is little you like about the president or those who choose to like him and approve of the job he's done. Seriously, though, why in the hell would you state such a thing, not even halfway through his Presidency? Oh, yeah, that's right - I forgot about you and Johnny Breck... i stated it because that's my position... you've stated yours, and made it relatively clear you don't approve of or support Obama. I guess I should have said, I'll vote for him again if he's the democrat's nominee. Is there anything he could do that would earn your vote? G i'm satisfied with him and his efforts. I voted for him suspecting/knowing he'd not likely be able to accomplish his full agenda... you think that is his individual fault, or his failing. i don't. He's a democrat...the only other viable choice is a republican of some stripe, and i'd sooner eat a turd than vote for that party's presidential offerings. BTW, I didn't support John (Breck) Edward's presidential run, only his campaign for the senate seat against a republican. He had moptop, flyaway hair in those days. I like Obama's tone and thoughtful approach to things... And I'll ask yet again - name 10...hell, 5...truly important things he's accomplished.for the US citizenry as a direct result of his being in office...IOW, **** he personally has accomplished. Hell, just list 5 reasons you'd vote for him again regardless of what else might follow. While I can't say he's done a _bad_ job, I can't he's done a good one either. Near as I can figure, he hasn't done _anything" significant...and I'll even ignore the whole "health care bill" debacle, because at the end of the day, it - as it currently stands - won't actually do much, if anything at all, in the big scheme of things. "truly important things"...to satisfy you? hell, where's that turd. G I'll let you argue with others... but here are some reasons given by others, many of which i had no, little, or only passing knowledge of, but most of which I can include among the reasons i'll vote for him again...and i choose not to ignore the health care reform. It was an immense project and a significant accomplishment. "He’s had a good first year,” says Ted Widmer, a presidential historian at Brown University in Providence, R.I. “Two of his biggest accomplishments are easy to overlook, but they were both important. He kept the financial crisis from becoming worse. And he vastly improved the way the rest of the world thinks about America.” *Health care reform * The "largest" economic stimulus bill in American history. * Ordering the closing of Guantanamo Bay military detention facility and abolishing "enhanced interrogation techniques." * Setting a fixed timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq. * "Returning science to its rightful place" by lifting the Bush restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research. * Signing laws to expand children's health insurance (financed by a 61-cent per pack increase in the federal cigarette tax the adviser did not tout). * Signing a law meant to improve the ability of women who allege pay discrimination to sue their employer. * Diminishing the role of lobbyists in the White House * "Forge a meaningful statement from the United Nations" criticizing North Korea's launch of a ballistic missile. * Lifting travel and remittance restrictions for Cuban Americans who seek to travel more frequently to the island and send more US currency to their immediate family. * Appointed a well-qualified Latina (the first) to the US Supreme Court * Engaging world leaders in Europe, Turkey, Latin American and the Caribbean with "strength and humility." * Within one year, pulled the US economy out of its nose dive, revived credit markets & nudged the economy towards growth of 2.2% in final quarter * Within one year, halted the devastating rate of monthly job losses he inherited, from an average 700,000 monthly in the first quarter of 2009, to 35,000 in first quarter 2010 - a major achievement the last administration was not capable of doing * The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009 in February - has played a key role in turnaround of economy over the last 3 quarters www.recovery.org o Stopped decline & grew GDP - from a -6.4% drop in 1st Qtr 2009, to -0.7 rate in 2nd Qtr and +2.2% growth in 3rd Qtr o Further 2010 growth in GDP is estimated at 4.4% by year end o $90 billion invested in clean energy economy of the future - jobs, lower dependence on foreign oil, enhance national security, clean environment o $10.5 billion investment in modernization of national electric grid o $18 billion for upgrades & modernization of public transport systems, including new high speed rail o $23 billion investment incentives to small businesses o Over $1billion in job training grants for jobs in new clean energy sectors o Tax credits to stimulate development of clean energy manufacturing - wind turbines, solar panels, electric vehicles, batteries, etc o Distributed education grants to US states, to keep teachers in schools o $1 billion investment in advancing use of cutting edge Health IT - By 2014, HIT will be made available to 100,000 hospitals & physicians & thousands of people trained for careers in HIT & health care, from nurses and pharmacy techs to IT technicians and trainers. o $650 million for Communities Putting Prevention to Work, public health program to address obesity, increase physical activity, improve nutrition, and decrease smoking. o Subsidized extended COBRA benefits for unemployed o NOT ONE REPUBLICAN VOTED "YES" FOR THIS IMPORTANT BILL, NOW CREDITED AS SAVING US ECONOMY FROM DISASTER, BY SEVERAL INDEPENDENT NON-PARTISAN GROUPS * The largest middle-class tax cut in history - $288 billion * Saved, or created around 2,000,000 US jobs * Cash for Clunkers Program: o 690.114 new cars sold o Dept of Transportation claims 52,000 jobs were saved * The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act * The Human Rights Enforcement Act of 2009 * The Credit Card Holders Bill of Rights Act of 2009 * Ryan White CARE Act of 2009 - repealed HIV entry ban * Approved California's adoption of car emission standards for cleaner air & climate control - had been blocked by President Bush for 6 years * Launched the White House Food Safety Working Group - initiative to modernize the US food safety systems & better protect Americans www.foodsafetyworkinggroup.com * The Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009, which o Repeals tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas & replace with incentives to create jobs in USA o Cracks down on US citizens & companies using offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes -22,000 parties identified & $210 billion in back taxes and penalties to be collected over next 10 years o Collected $780 million fine from UBS for offshore banking violation * President Obama has cracked down on high level of financial losses from across-the-board fraud & abuse of Medicare (estimated $600 billion lost over last decade from inattention to Medicare fraud) o January 2010 National Summit on Health Care Fraud o New inter-agency Health Care Fraud Prevention and Enforcement Action Team (HEAT) introduced - www.stopmedicarefraud.gov o 5 new Strike Force Teams added in 5 new cities - 13 more to be added in 2011 (Strike Force teams have collected $250 million in restitutions, fines & penalties since 2008) o Expanded Health Care Fraud and Abuse Control (HCFAC) Program - $13.1 billion has been returned to Medicare o 7 new Obama initiatives, starting in 2010/2011 will generate a further $15 billion in savings for Medicare over next 10 years o Successful completion of largest pharmaceutical fraud case awards Medicare $2.5 billion from Pfizer o January 2010 launch of nation's first Health Security Strategy - comprehensive strategy to protect Americans' health during a national emergency and... Dr. Robert Watson: "His first six months have been even more active than FDRs or LBJs the two standards for such assessments. Yet, there is little media attention given to much of what he has done. Of late, the media is focusing almost exclusively on Obama's critics, without holding them responsible for the uncivil, unconstructive tone of their disagreements or without holding the previous administration responsible for getting us in such a deep hole. The misinformation and venom that now passes for political reporting and civic debate is beyond description. As such, there is a need to set the record straight. What most impresses me is the fact that Obama has accomplished so much not from a heavy-handed or top-down approach but from a style that has institutionalized efforts to reach across the aisle, encourage vigorous debate, and utilize town halls and panels of experts in the policy-making process. Beyond the accomplishments, the process is good for democracy and our democratic processes have been battered and bruised in recent years." 1.Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending 2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices 3. Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women 4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq 5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover A.F.B. 6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information 7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover A.F.B.; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family 8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act 9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible 10. Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House 11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration 12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date 13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan 14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research 15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research 16. New federal funding for science and research labs 17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards 18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect 19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools 20. New funds for school construction 21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out 22. US Auto industry rescue plan 23. Housing rescue plan 24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan 25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying 26. US financial and banking rescue plan 27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed 28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards 29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops 30.The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010 31. Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols 32. Re-engaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic 33. Re-engaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions 34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office 35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job 36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast 37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles 38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales 39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government 40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children 41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program 42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba , allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones 43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions 44. Expanding vaccination programs 45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters 46. Closed offshore tax safe havens 47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals 48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back 49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry's predatory practices 50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources 51. Lower drug costs for seniors 52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings 53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel 54. Improved housing for military personnel 55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses 56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals 57. Increasing student loans 58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program 59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; re-engaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy 60. Established a new cyber security office 61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc. 62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts 63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness 64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient 65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced 66. Improving benefits for veterans 67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration 68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud 69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco 70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules 71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports 72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons 73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive 74. Making more loans available to small businesses 75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare 76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court 77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans 78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000 79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel 80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan 81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan 82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans 83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production 84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters 85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket 86. Held first Seder in White House 87. Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured 88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform 89. Push for energy reform 90. Push for education reform Here's somebody else's top 7...which contains 5 reasons i'll vote for him. #1 Health Care Reform President Obama's sweeping health care reform bill establishes health care coverage as a right for all Americans. It expands coverage to 32 million more Americans while simultaneously reducing the deficit by $1.3 trillion over the next 20 years. It also makes illegal many of the health insurance industry's worst tactics for making more profit at the cost of people's health (including denying coverage for people with pre-existing conditions.) #2 Successful Economic Stimulus When Barack Obama took over the Presidency the country's economy was heading straight down due to the distrous policies of George W. Bush. In February Obama signed the stimulus into law and it has helped to stem the job losses. In fact economists say that over one million jobs have either been saved or added due to it. #3 Eliminating Wasteful Spending The elimination of the F-22 fight jet program is an example of some of the wasteful spending that Obama has eliminated as President. #4 Sonia Sotomayor Obama's first Supreme Court nominee was successful. She became the very first hispanic on the Supreme Court and only the 3rd woman. #5 Credit Card Reform The credit card reform bill that Obama signed in May of 2009 has helped to provide new protections for customers. #6 Stem Cell Research In May of '09 Obama signed an executive order allowing more federal money to be used for very important stem cell research. #7 More Successful on Anti-Terrorism Than Bush Obama launched more attacks on terrorists in his first year than did Bush in the last four years of his Presidency combined. yeah, yeah...i know you wanted to quibble with me personally. but we both know i'm no match for you, and i've no desire to disappoint either of us. G jeff HTH, R sure you do... |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:11:07 -0400, jeff wrote:
Please give me the following, and with the exception of the 25-75 number, all must be 1-9 - no zeros.: Any single number/digit in any of your addresses (home, office, PO Box, your college apartment, ZIP code, I don't care), any single number from any two of your phone numbers (2 total numbers), any single number from your bar card (or hell, some shopper's discount card in your wallet), the day any of your children were born (i.e., 2 if April 2nd), pick any number from 1 to 10, pick another from 25 to 75. I don't need or want the entire number for any of the above...****, just make up 7 random numbers that'll fit into the above. Thanks, R |
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