Everyone else is doin' it...

"a-happy-up-yours" wrote in
message ink.net...

See if the school has a deal with Dell and buy through that. Lots more
clout through an institution that as an individual. Maybe the bookstore?


Tom

I checked, but ya have to pay up-front. I preferred to pay the interest
charges, as my immediate gratification gene kicked in.

Op --Not real bright, but I got a Dell dude!--

I tried to order a dell once based on an ad in a local paper. called
the number, told the dell lady the special ad number, she said she
couldn't find it and then tried to sell me the same computer at an
increased price but with the celeron instead of pentium chip... seemed
a scam to me, and, as a result, i'll never buy a dell, no matter what.

jeff

Guyz-N-Flyz wrote:
"Bob Patton" rwpmailatcharterdotnet wrote in message
...

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
. ..
Op, I ordered a Dell computer a couple of years ago. Price was very
reasonable, but when they confirmed my order and told me the shipping cost
my eyes popped. I forget exactly what it was, but the shipping cost was

VERY

high. And it's not as if I live in outer Slobovia, or they had to hire
Sherpas to deliver it. I had some experience with similar things, having
bought a computer from Gateway a year or two earlier. I cancelled the

order

as soon as I received their fax confirming the details and haven't ordered
from Dell since.

Bob


**** Bob, I only wish it were the shippin' costs. By the time I finished
adding the features that 'tripper suggested and got off the phone with the
sales woman--"checkout" wouldn't work on the web site (could this be a
design feature?)--I had been talked into a 4 year in home warranty. Final
tally was over $2500.

Op --there goes my tax refund and more next year!--

Jeff wrote:
I tried to order a dell once based on an ad in a local paper. called
the number, told the dell lady the special ad number, she said she
couldn't find it and then tried to sell me the same computer at an
increased price but with the celeron instead of pentium chip... seemed
a scam to me, and, as a result, i'll never buy a dell, no matter what.

jeff

jeff, are ya sure it wasn't a compaq ad? ;-)

wally

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:05:24 -0500, "Guyz-N-Flyz"
wrote:

-I had been talked into a 4 year in home warranty. Final
tally was over $2500.

I assume you got the undercoating too?
--
Charlie...

Naw, but I did get the clear-coat finish. I hear it will protect against
the most vile UV rays.

Op --yeah, they saw ME comin'--

"daytripper" wrote in message
...

Sorry, had the wrong marketing words, Modular Bay it is indeed.

That's ok, these things happen to us young folk too.

It appeared the 8600 has two Modular Bays like all earlier 8000-series
LTs,
and if it is configured similarly, then the right hand Modular Bay is
where
the first primary battery normally resides.

And if your optical device (CDRW/DVD combo unit) is going in the *fixed*
("optical") bay on the side of the base unit, then that leaves the second
Modular Bay in front for goodies - like a second Primary battery. Or a
removable hard drive, second CD, diskette drive, etc.

You should get a second of whatever you're getting for the first battery,
but
in any case I recommend cells with the integrated battery management
units,
for the life-span and safety benefits (I don't even want to think of a
heat-induced separator failure on a 72Whour pack root-caused by
overcharging...)

I ordered a second Primary Batt. and a floppy drive, I think?

"(I don't even want to think of a
heat-induced separator failure on a 72Whour pack root-caused by
overcharging...)"

Say What?????


I just checked the Dell web site and the applicable battery is the 72WHour
"Smart Li-Ion" pack.

This must be Dell Day, as I spent an hour this morning on the phone with a
coworker as he built his Dell laptop today. Another 8600, very similar to
your
configuration. Looks tasty from here ;-)

I hope he's got deepo pockets!

Op --thanks for the help bud!--

/daytripper

"Tim Carter" wrote in message
news
I've owned both desktops and laptops and had full intentions of using the
laptop for the supposed benefits. For me, however, I would say you'd get
a
lot more machine for a lot less money with a desktop. I have yet to
actually use the laptop on a flight (though I've taken it with me) and had
been to a cafe or what not only a handful of times with it. Furthermore,
for most people, I'd say the cheapest computer is the best route to go.
If
you do any intense video/graphic/maybe audio work (and especially if you
are into the new high end 3D games) and/or do any intense database
queries,
you'll be happy you've got the speed...if you're like most people and
surfing the net, checking e-mail and maybe doing some Word/Excel type
work,
get the cheapest you can find ( though I'd stick with reasonable name
brands -- components, not necessarily marketer) and use the money saved to
get a fast broadband connection.

Too late. I convinced myself that I needed this and now it's comin'.

Another thing to keep in mind is the expense to upgrade...it's always
cheaper to buy the latest video card/motherboard/RAM for a desktop than a
laptop.

Either way, you'll be happy with the machine -- it's just a matter of $$
(or
??, ¥¥ or whatever).

Happy or not, here it comes.

Op --though I think I'm gonna be real happy, once I figure out how to pay
for it?--

"a_happy_up_yours" wrote in message
. com...
802.11b has a fatally flawed WEP protocol. Don't depend on *that* for
security. 802.11g uses a higher level protocol and seems to be properly
implemented.

The 802.11b protocol is regularly cracked/hacked by "wardrivers" using $25
worth of hardware and a free hacker program. There are national
"contests"
organized for the purpose of scoring points for the fastest crack and the
most cracks within a given time period.

More basic info he

http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20021031S0004


Tom


As all of this is over my pointy little head, I'll just try to figure out
how to start the thing when it gets here.

Op --beginnin' to worry--

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:10:27 -0500, "Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote:


"daytripper" wrote in message
.. .

"(I don't even want to think of a
heat-induced separator failure on a 72Whour pack root-caused by
overcharging...)"

Say What?????

Basically, overheating due to poor charge management can cause voids in the
plate insulator within the battery (aka "separator") which in turn causes the
plates to short together, which generates heat, which causes more separator
damage, which generates even more heat, etc, etc.

What you end up with is a run-away exothermal event (aka a "hot smoker")
*inside* your laptop, almost always resulting in a commensurately prodigious
depreciation of said 'puter...

As for the $2500: although very similar to my 8100, you're getting a faster
machine with a larger hard drive for almost $500 less than I paid for mine -
two years ago.

And, btw, my work buddy managed to hit around the same $2500 as you, though
I'm not sure if he opted for as long a warranty.

It looks like a killer machine. I'm sure you'll be pleased with it!

/daytripper (I think I'm jealous ;-)

Same here Op all that puter mumbo-jumbo all very neccersary (sp) but over my
head.......If they don't send a key with your laptop look for a kick-starter on
the right side


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick