Lunker

On 5/21/10 10:24 PM, MajorOz wrote:

Generally speaking, blue-water cuda are OK, but lagoon cuda are not.

That's because the lagoon cuda eat poisonous reef fish.

I caught this one not long ago in the Yucatan:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu.../barracuda.jpg

It's not real big -- maybe 10lbs -- but it was pretty cool. They're
tough to entice to a fly. They usually spook, and if they don't you have
to strip as fast as possible.

I kept it and gave it to the guide. He was delighted -- just about the
best eating fish available in those parts. He didn't seem any the worse
for wear the next day.

Here's a more scenic shot from the Yucatan:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbum/cuda/IMG_0372.jpg

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On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:15:02 -0600, rw wrote:

On 5/21/10 10:24 PM, MajorOz wrote:

Generally speaking, blue-water cuda are OK, but lagoon cuda are not.

That's because the lagoon cuda eat poisonous reef fish.

No and not really/exactly, at least in the implication put forth. I'm not going
to argue about it - I'm simply going to state my position:

I don't care who anyone thinks to be correct - I would ask that anyone thinking
of consuming barracuda do their own research and satisfy themselves that they
know the risks (or satisfy themselves that they don't believe doing so to be a
risk). While ciguatera is not _always_ fatal, it _can_ be, esp. with kids,
older people, etc. and while there are "levels" of it, you don't want any part
of it.

Simply, ciguatera starts with "algae" (dinoflagellates) and it is not limited to
carnivorous reef fish, "lagoon" or otherwise. I'm not sure what a "lagoon cuda"
is - only young 'cuda are regular shallow-water dwellers, but any of the size
that those likely reading this would consider "eating size" would not likely
limit themselves to being "blue-water" or "shallow water," at least insofar as
the normal range of habitat - barracuda are not deep-water fish. The location
of the catch is not an indicator, nor is any other "outwardly visible" sign,
freshness of the fish, storage, etc., nor can it be cooked out by any reasonable
cooking method.

IAC, I'd advise anyone who plans on catching _any_ potential source fish, but
esp. barracuda, or otherwise consuming them "fresh" - i.e., not from a
commercial source, to get a ciguatera test kit. They aren't expensive. And if
you don't want to bother with a kit, limit your risk as much as possible by
eating only skinless filets - no other parts, no soups made with it or stock
from them, etc.

And FWIW, anyone traveling to "tropical" waters and consuming "local" seafood,
from any source, fresh-caught or at a restaurant, would be advised to at least
be familiar with what ciguatera is and the other potential sources

HTH,
R

On 5/22/10 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:15:02 -0600, wrote:

On 5/21/10 10:24 PM, MajorOz wrote:

Generally speaking, blue-water cuda are OK, but lagoon cuda are not.

That's because the lagoon cuda eat poisonous reef fish.

No and not really/exactly, at least in the implication put forth. I'm not going
to argue about it - I'm simply going to state my position:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:49:51 -0600, rw
wrote:

On 5/22/10 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:15:02 -0600, wrote:

On 5/21/10 10:24 PM, MajorOz wrote:

Generally speaking, blue-water cuda are OK, but lagoon cuda are not.

That's because the lagoon cuda eat poisonous reef fish.

No and not really/exactly, at least in the implication put forth. I'm not going
to argue about it - I'm simply going to state my position:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Seriously.

I can't believe anyone reads more than the first line or two of this world
class pedant's posts before clicking on by.

On Sat, 22 May 2010 19:05:57 -0400, whodathunkit
wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:49:51 -0600, rw
wrote:

On 5/22/10 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:15:02 -0600, wrote:

On 5/21/10 10:24 PM, MajorOz wrote:

Generally speaking, blue-water cuda are OK, but lagoon cuda are not.

That's because the lagoon cuda eat poisonous reef fish.

No and not really/exactly, at least in the implication put forth. I'm not going
to argue about it - I'm simply going to state my position:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Seriously.

I can't believe anyone reads more than the first line or two of this world
class pedant's posts before clicking on by.

SNICKER _and_ BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

So, either you read _every_ word of _every_ post which you label as pedantic and
register disbelief that anyone would read, or, you don't read them but you
choose to offer an opinion about that which you admit that you purposefully
choose to know not about what you speak...well, that, and you're a pussy for
attempting to post anonymously...

HTH,
Dickie

On May 22, 10:16*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 19:05:57 -0400, whodathunkit
wrote:





On Sat, 22 May 2010 14:49:51 -0600, rw
wrote:

On 5/22/10 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:15:02 -0600, *wrote:

On 5/21/10 10:24 PM, MajorOz wrote:

Generally speaking, blue-water cuda are OK, but lagoon cuda are not..

That's because the lagoon cuda eat poisonous reef fish.

No and not really/exactly, at least in the implication put forth. *I'm not going
to argue about it - I'm simply going to state my position:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Seriously.

I can't believe anyone reads more than the first line or two of this world
class pedant's posts before clicking on by.

SNICKER _and_ BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

So, either you read _every_ word of _every_ post which you label as pedantic and
register disbelief that anyone would read, or, you don't read them but you
choose to offer an opinion about that which you admit that you purposefully
choose to know not about what you speak...well, that, and you're a pussy for
attempting to post anonymously...

HTH,
Dickie



Moron.

g.

On 2010-05-22 12:15:02 -0400, rw said:


I kept it and gave it to the guide. He was delighted -- just about the
best eating fish available in those parts. He didn't seem any the worse
for wear the next day.

The best civeche I've ever had was while I lived in Panama, and was
made from barracuda. I was reluctant at first to eat it because of the
toxin stories I'd heard. However, I was assured by its maker, a
PanCanal cop, that it was safe. He would bring a batch into the
Chief's Club every month. We'd eat it with fried plantain grown
locally. And lots of beer.

Dave
(who also ate King Crab, battered and fried, in the Chief's Club on
Adak, Alaska. During the fishing season, it was served daily as a
freebe at the bar.)