Rapid River

On 2010-06-09 04:23:40 -0400, DaveS said:


Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs.
And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . .
What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid?
And the typical annual low?

Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent
small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36
hours spiking to 1000+ cfs.

Dave

The ideal flow would be 900 cfs. That would allow good fishing on just
about anyplace on the river, and would allow folks to wade across First
Current to The Island. More than 900 and you would need a boat for the
island. They are running 400 now, although the lake is full. Can't
understand why the flow is so low, but Florida Power and Light control
it. Their logic escapes me at times.

Flood stage would be anything greater than 2000 cfs. There are still
places to fish, but you really have to know the river. At 4000s the
river is in the woods and there is no island. At 6000 they practically
scour the river. I've seen that a few times. FPL can be axxholes. In
fact, most of the time (including now) they ARE axxholes.

At 400 cfs the fishing is great, but if it stays at that flow, the
river warms and the brook trout escape to the springs in Pond in the
River. It's been at 400 for almost a week, and the very cold nights
and cool days have been a blessing. The lake is full, so there is no
reason why they shouldn't be running 800 - 1200 cfs.

Dave

On Jun 9, 2:51*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-06-09 04:23:40 -0400, DaveS said:



Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs.
And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . .
What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid?
And the typical annual low?

Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent
small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36
hours spiking to 1000+ cfs.

Dave

The ideal flow would be 900 cfs. *That would allow good fishing on just
about anyplace on the river, and would allow folks to wade across First
Current to The Island. *More than 900 and you would need a boat for the
island. *They are running 400 now, although the lake is full. *Can't
understand why the flow is so low, but Florida Power and Light control
it. *Their logic escapes me at times.

Flood stage would be anything greater than 2000 cfs. *There are still
places to fish, but you really have to know the river. *At 4000s the
river is in the woods and there is no island. *At 6000 they practically
scour the river. *I've seen that a few times. *FPL can be axxholes. *In
fact, most of the time (including now) they ARE axxholes.

At 400 cfs the fishing is great, but if it stays at that flow, the
river warms and the brook trout escape to the springs in Pond in the
River. *It's been at 400 for almost a week, and the very cold nights
and cool days have been a blessing. *The lake is full, so there is no
reason why they shouldn't be running 800 - 1200 cfs.

Dave

Interesting. At 2000cfs my little river (Touches) is in flood, and it
is also now running at about 400cfs after spiking 1000+ a few days
ago. If the cite below works you can see the wide fluctuations
characteristic of many small Western rivers.

https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/wrx/wrx/...al=true#block2


Dave

On 9-Jun-2010, David LaCourse wrote:

Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs.
And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . .
What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid?
And the typical annual low?

Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent
small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36
hours spiking to 1000+ cfs.

Dave

The ideal flow would be 900 cfs. That would allow good fishing on just
about anyplace on the river, and would allow folks to wade across First
Current to The Island. More than 900 and you would need a boat for the
island. They are running 400 now, although the lake is full. Can't
understand why the flow is so low, but Florida Power and Light control
it. Their logic escapes me at times.

Flood stage would be anything greater than 2000 cfs. There are still
places to fish, but you really have to know the river. At 4000s the
river is in the woods and there is no island. At 6000 they practically
scour the river. I've seen that a few times. FPL can be axxholes. In
fact, most of the time (including now) they ARE axxholes.

At 400 cfs the fishing is great, but if it stays at that flow, the
river warms and the brook trout escape to the springs in Pond in the
River. It's been at 400 for almost a week, and the very cold nights
and cool days have been a blessing. The lake is full, so there is no
reason why they shouldn't be running 800 - 1200 cfs.

Dave

Dave I am jealous
I often confuse jealous and envious - the words
and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no
malice involved.

I had the best nights sleep for 3 -4 night on Richardson Lake on an island
camppsite me and my bird dog Taylor
We, my wife , and I spent a lot of wonderful times @ Chesuncook and Umbagog

I remember the small speckled brookies of all colors and the few we ate were
unbelievable w carrots onions and eggs in fpil

Stay fishing, man
The world is nuts!

Pancho Villa

On 6/9/10 8:35 PM, Fred wrote:

Dave I am jealous
I often confuse jealous and envious - the words
and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no
malice involved.

Envy is the desire for that which someone else has.

Jealousy is the belief that someone else has what rightfully belongs to
oneself, as for example a loved one.

You're envious, not jealous.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On 9-Jun-2010, rw wrote:

Dave I am jealous
I often confuse jealous and envious - the words
and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no
malice involved.

Envy is the desire for that which someone else has.

Jealousy is the belief that someone else has what rightfully belongs to
oneself, as for example a loved one.

You're envious, not jealous.

Gracias senor

Pancho

On 2010-06-09 22:35:46 -0400, "Fred" said:


Dave I am jealous
I often confuse jealous and envious - the words
and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no
malice involved.

I had the best nights sleep for 3 -4 night on Richardson Lake on an island
camppsite me and my bird dog Taylor
We, my wife , and I spent a lot of wonderful times @ Chesuncook and Umbagog

I remember the small speckled brookies of all colors and the few we ate were
unbelievable w carrots onions and eggs in fpil

Stay fishing, man
The world is nuts!

Pancho Villa

There are several island sites for camping Fred, and they all offer
some beautiful views and fishing. In addition there are two very close
to the river and on the same side. Both the Black Cat site and Comfort
Cove site are within a mile of the river. They are primitive sites (no
running water) and the bugs can get bad, but the fishing is good.

You ought to think about returning here some day.

Dave

On 10-Jun-2010, David LaCourse wrote:

Dave I am jealous
I often confuse jealous and envious - the words
and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no
malice involved.

I had the best nights sleep for 3 -4 night on Richardson Lake on an
island
camppsite me and my bird dog Taylor
We, my wife , and I spent a lot of wonderful times @ Chesuncook and
Umbagog

I remember the small speckled brookies of all colors and the few we ate
were
unbelievable w carrots onions and eggs in fpil

Stay fishing, man
The world is nuts!

Pancho Villa

There are several island sites for camping Fred, and they all offer
some beautiful views and fishing. In addition there are two very close
to the river and on the same side. Both the Black Cat site and Comfort
Cove site are within a mile of the river. They are primitive sites (no
running water) and the bugs can get bad, but the fishing is good.

You ought to think about returning here some day.

Dave

We have 2 weddings
One Labor Day and the other one in Oct
Both are in MA at Amherst and Sturbridge
Ia sked my nephews to change the dates to get married on th same weekend
but -They won't listen to me
So
I might just do that or
Some striper fishing near Portland ME
Powerful fish!

Fred