Bend Over, USA

Frank Church wrote in
9.11:

(Greg Pavlov) wrote in
news:3fd72d29.173589168 @news.cis.dfn.de:

...it is true that most all of us at one time or another have
posted OT about one thing or another, but your whining leftwing
posts come on a more or less regular basis. And no, I don't talk
politics when fishing with roffians or anyone else for that
matter. Since this is an international forum it must be boring
as hell for our friends who aren't US citizens. It's the surest
way to create hard feelings and who needs that ****? Except you
and a few others that seem to thrive on discord. I will stick
around and you can enjoy your stay in my bozo bin. EOT.

Frank Church
..who is not advocating censorship, just take your political
**** to the proper forum.


Full Moon!

;-)

C'mon Frank, the political rants are *mostly* boring and
uninteresting thats what delete/mark as read/plonk files are for.
As you yourself and a recent email correspondent astutely noted, it
is nigh on impossible to change the views of those who have their
minds made up. I may be wrong (interpreting others' motives is
always dodgy), but I don't think Greg's original post was trying to
do that ... he was just looking for someone to share a bush bashing
session with. As it turns out he has been largely unsuccessful in
this thread .

I say *mostly* because certain diabolical acts touch us all. Also,
reading some of the OT posts (even the political ones) of the
regular roffians, like greg's original above, do give some small
insight into the poster.

Of course I may well feel differently if it was an Aus. dominated
group with local politics poke its ugly head up constantly ...

Steve (fair dinkum furriner, relatively speaking

"Tim J." wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote...
snip
Wolfgang
who is all atwitter with anticipation over which fool of a liar
will
step up to the plate first.

I read that challenge as:
"You're so vain, I bet you think this song is about you. Don't you?"

Well, I guess that making them a matter of public record is still the
best way to assure that one's hopes and expectations are dashed. Ask
for a reasoned response and you'll get a fool every time. Conversely,
ask for a fool and you get.......THIS!

Wolfgang

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
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Frank Church wrote in
9.11:

....Of course I may well feel differently if it was an Aus.
dominated
group with local politics poke its ugly head up constantly ...

Is it possible I am the only person in this group sorely disappointed
that we aren't occasionally treated to internecine political squabbles
from other places? It is a very sad thing to contemplate that so few
are interested in the doings of the quaint folk in far away lands.

Steve (fair dinkum furriner, relatively speaking

Well sure, but then, who ain't?

Wolfgang

Quite simply, I'm an anarchist. anip
Simple, no?
Wolfgang

You chose, or someone chose for you, one of the better nations in which to
practice your particular form of anarchy.

It would appear to me that choosing such a political philosophy would
require a bit less anarchy on your part if there were more anarchists around
to practice said philosophy with you.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
TANSTAAFL

"Greg Pavlov" wrote...
Frank Church wrote:

...it is true that most all of us at one time or another have posted OT
about one thing or another, but your whining leftwing posts come on a
more or less regular basis. ...

Not having dumped any wives (while we don't run around
with the "Family Values" preachin' crowd, a lot of us liberaals
have been married to the same people for a very long time)
I haven't had much opportunity to whine about divorces,

Careful, Greg. There but for the grace. . .and all that rot. Sometimes (many
times) the "good guys" aren't on the "dumping" end of the equation. Tomorrow
could be your lucky day.

so
I'll whine about people who are eviscerating this country and
my childrens' future instead.

There you go with all that anti-Dem talk again.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
(Greg Pavlov) wrote in news:3fd72d29.173589168
Snip Snip
"Since this is an
international forum it must be boring as hell for our friends who aren't
US citizens. It's the surest way to create hard feelings and who needs
that ****? Except you and a few others that seem to thrive on discord. I
will stick around and you can enjoy your stay in my bozo bin. EOT.

Frank Church
..who is not advocating censorship, just take your political **** to the
proper forum.

Frank,
With all due respect, the **** that Greg is referring to is not "politics" .
.. . its massive corruption at the highest levels of our government and is
treason or something very close to it. Secondly, I believe you are fairly
well disconnected if you believe that the mismanagement of US foreign
relations is not of concern internationally. Few other national governments,
and fewer foreign populations support the present Cowboy policies of our
un-elected government.

These are painful times for US patriots: The right-wing has lost all moral,
economic, or patriotic credibility. The left wing is immobilized by general
goofiness and the all out assault on civil liberties, and the center is
embarrassed that it was conned by an inept clown, who parroted all the
feel-good slogans. The corruption, the stealing, the betrayal of troops in
the field, the posturing of White House martinets, IS outrageous.

Our country will find its moral compass again and things will get corrected.
However, to complain right now that the occasional screams of outrage are
uncomfortable is akin to bitching about the smoke from a neighbor's burning
house.

Dave

"Wolfgang" wrote in
:

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
...
Frank Church wrote in
9.11:

....Of course I may well feel differently if it was an Aus.
dominated
group with local politics poke its ugly head up constantly ...

Is it possible I am the only person in this group sorely
disappointed that we aren't occasionally treated to internecine
political squabbles from other places?

Yes. ;-)

You need a critical mass to have the blues start ...
I don't think there are enough quaint folk here of any
particular denomination to form that mass.

Steve

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
(Greg Pavlov) wrote in news:3fd72d29.173589168
?

...it is true that most all of us at one time or another have posted OT
about one thing or another, but your whining leftwing posts come on a
more or less regular basis.

Frank,
A question about your logic Frank . . . why is complaining about corruption
a "whining leftwing post(s)"? Would a post praising corruption be a
"forthright rightwing post"? How about a post betraying the identity of an
American intelligence agent? Would that be a "patriotic rightwing post"?

Dave
Too old to follow the shapeshifters into hell

"slenon" wrote in message
.. .
Quite simply, I'm an anarchist. anip
Simple, no?
Wolfgang

You chose, or someone chose for you, one of the better nations in which to
practice your particular form of anarchy.

I'll try to keep that in mind if I ever practice anarchy. I wouldn't hold
my breath though; cooperative ventures, by their very nature, are not the
sorts of things one can do alone......and I don't see a line forming
anywhere. As to a "particular form of anarchy", I'm sure I don't have a
much better idea of what you might mean by that than you have.

It would appear to me that choosing such a political philosophy would
require a bit less anarchy on your part if there were more anarchists
around
to practice said philosophy with you.

Um.......you DO know that words have meanings, right? I mean, I don't want
to appear to be unduly demanding or anything.....I don't, for example,
expect you to know what meanings go with which words....but you ARE aware
that there is some sort of correlation, right?

Wolfgang

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
...
"Wolfgang" wrote in
:

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
...
Frank Church wrote in
9.11:

....Of course I may well feel differently if it was an Aus.
dominated
group with local politics poke its ugly head up constantly ...

Is it possible I am the only person in this group sorely
disappointed that we aren't occasionally treated to internecine
political squabbles from other places?

Yes. ;-)

Rats!

You need a critical mass to have the blues start ...
I don't think there are enough quaint folk here of any
particular denomination to form that mass.

Well, not to appear contentious or anything, but having met many a ROFFian
of considerable gravity, I maintain that any one of a great number of them
individually approaches critical mass regardless of peculiar political,
currency, or theological affiliation. Furthermore, as the Earth exhibits no
perturbations in it's orbit or rotation that cannot be accounted for by
traditional astronomic or geophysical causes, it seems altogether likely
that such grave ROFFians must be more or less equally distributed throughout
all hemispheres on the face of the globe.......you GOTTA have enough down
your way for a good set to from time to time. You just ain't tryin', mate.


Wolfgang