Leaders

On Aug 5, 7:21*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-08-03 07:30:48 -0400, riverman said:





On Aug 3, 6:58*pm, Frank Church wrote:
Frank Reid © 2010 wrote innews:cb4d3598-79a7-4c20
:

Thanks for the input guys, I have used Orvis fly lines and like them a
whole lot, easy to get the coils out of them too...will give the Orvis
leaders a try.

Frank Sr.

At the risk of inflaming an old wound, I find that holding any leaders
(including the aforementioned Rio slinkys) in hot water (not boiling,
but almost) for about 10 seconds, then holding the ends apart until it
cools, results in it becoming straight and malleable. And to my
experience, with no loss of strength whatsoever.

YMMV, and if I know ROFF, it just might. *:-)

--riverman

I believe this was suggested by our infamous roffian George Gerhke many
years ago. *I tried it once and it works, but I have no trouble
removing the coils from the Orvis superstrong leaders I normally use.

Dave

Actually, I believe it was suggested by Mike Connor, and was met with
derision and turned into a flame war.

I wish I could stretch leader in my hands like some of you guys can,
but I just end up with rope burns, wavy leader and a kink where I
pinched the narrow end to hold it tightly. The hot water method is
effortless, but of course it involves a hot beverage or hot water on
hand. But it has the same visual effect as running a hot iron over a
wrinkled shirt....it's like magic :-)

Or so I've heard (about irons, that is)
:-)

On Aug 5, 8:09*am, riverman wrote:
On Aug 5, 7:21*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:



On 2010-08-03 07:30:48 -0400, riverman said:

On Aug 3, 6:58*pm, Frank Church wrote:
Frank Reid © 2010 wrote innews:cb4d3598-79a7-4c20
:

Thanks for the input guys, I have used Orvis fly lines and like them a
whole lot, easy to get the coils out of them too...will give the Orvis
leaders a try.

Frank Sr.

At the risk of inflaming an old wound, I find that holding any leaders
(including the aforementioned Rio slinkys) in hot water (not boiling,
but almost) for about 10 seconds, then holding the ends apart until it
cools, results in it becoming straight and malleable. And to my
experience, with no loss of strength whatsoever.

YMMV, and if I know ROFF, it just might. *:-)

--riverman

I believe this was suggested by our infamous roffian George Gerhke many
years ago. *I tried it once and it works, but I have no trouble
removing the coils from the Orvis superstrong leaders I normally use.

Dave

Actually, I believe it was suggested by Mike Connor, and was met with
derision and turned into a flame war.

I wish I could stretch leader in my hands like some of you guys can,
but I just end up with rope burns, wavy leader and a kink where I
pinched the narrow end to hold it tightly. The hot water method is
effortless, but of course it involves a hot beverage or hot water on
hand. But it has the same visual effect as running a hot iron over a
wrinkled shirt....it's like magic *:-)

Or so I've heard (about irons, that is)
:-)

Whatever happened to the idea of spitting on it and pulling it through
a piece of inner tube dangling with the clippers, hemostats, etc?

Works for me........as does wrapping it once around a cork handle and
pulling it out.

What's the big deal...........?

cheers

oz, who also wades wet in old tennis shoes.....but is somewhat of a
barbarian

MajorOz wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of spitting on it and pulling it through
a piece of inner tube dangling with the clippers, hemostats, etc?

The inner tube oftentimes produces too much heat which weakens
the leader. Lose four or five good fish to a weak spot in your
leader and you'll throw away the inner tube for good.

Works for me........as does wrapping it once around a cork handle and
pulling it out.

What's the big deal...........?

cheers

oz, who also wades wet in old tennis shoes.....but is somewhat of a
barbarian

I don't hear anyone saying it's a big deal, all I hear is a
question about leaders.

I traveled many, many miles in the Boundary Waters and Quetico
wearing high top Converse All Stars as wading/hiking/ all day
shoes. Sliding a bare foot into a wet pair of tennis shoes on
a crisp cool morning was always the worst part of the day. And
damn near painful. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Aug 5, 11:54*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of spitting on it and pulling it through
a piece of inner tube dangling with the clippers, hemostats, etc?

The inner tube oftentimes produces too much heat which weakens
the leader. Lose four or five good fish to a weak spot in your
leader and you'll throw away the inner tube for good.

Thank you.

I wasn't aware of that problem.

cheers, and some Coal Ila

oz

MajorOz wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of spitting on it and pulling it through
a piece of inner tube dangling with the clippers, hemostats, etc?

The inner tube oftentimes produces too much heat which weakens
the leader. Lose four or five good fish to a weak spot in your
leader and you'll throw away the inner tube for good.

Thank you.

I wasn't aware of that problem.

My theory on leaders is; if you can't straighten it with your
fingers, try another brand of leader until you find one you can.

cheers, and some Coal Ila

I'm sipping on a Laphroaig as we "speak".

Slainte !

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Aug 6, 7:22*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of spitting on it and pulling it through
a piece of inner tube dangling with the clippers, hemostats, etc?

The inner tube oftentimes produces too much heat which weakens
the leader. Lose four or five good fish to a weak spot in your
leader and you'll throw away the inner tube for good.

Thank you.

I wasn't aware of that problem.

My theory on leaders is; if you can't straighten it with your
fingers, try another brand of leader until you find one you can.

cheers, and some Coal Ila

I'm sipping on a Laphroaig as we "speak".

Slainte !

--
Ken Fortenberry

Good theory. I figure there's always more than one way to straighten
out a leader (cue Beancounter here).

Actually, there IS one use for boiling that I found very good. I have
a little 6-inch section of heavy nylon line between my fly line and my
tippet, with a perfection loop so I can change leaders easily without
having to tie on a new nail knot. Sometimes, when my leader is getting
close to 9 foot long, that little nylon section sits right at the
tiptop when I pack my rod for travel, so over time it gets a bad kink
in it. Its too short and too strong to stretch out by hand, but
dipping it in boiling water and pulling on it straightens it out
perfectly.

--riverman

riverman wrote in
:

On Aug 6, 7:22*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
MajorOz wrote:
Whatever happened to the idea of spitting on it and pulling it
throug
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a piece of inner tube dangling with the clippers, hemostats, etc?

The inner tube oftentimes produces too much heat which weakens
the leader. Lose four or five good fish to a weak spot in your
leader and you'll throw away the inner tube for good.

Thank you.

I wasn't aware of that problem.

My theory on leaders is; if you can't straighten it with your
fingers, try another brand of leader until you find one you can.

cheers, and some Coal Ila

I'm sipping on a Laphroaig as we "speak".

Slainte !

--
Ken Fortenberry

Good theory. I figure there's always more than one way to straighten
out a leader (cue Beancounter here).

Actually, there IS one use for boiling that I found very good. I have
a little 6-inch section of heavy nylon line between my fly line and my
tippet, with a perfection loop so I can change leaders easily without
having to tie on a new nail knot. Sometimes, when my leader is getting
close to 9 foot long, that little nylon section sits right at the
tiptop when I pack my rod for travel, so over time it gets a bad kink
in it. Its too short and too strong to stretch out by hand, but
dipping it in boiling water and pulling on it straightens it out
perfectly.

--riverman


Whoda thunkit? Thanks river guy, I will use that tip.

Kinked in Fremont