How Things Get Done

On Sep 14, 8:29*pm, "Tim J."
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"jeff" wrote in message

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tom, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... enjoy a good smoke.

Mmmmmmmmm. . . cigars.

Ewwwwwwwww. . . rope.

Oh, yeah. I very much enjoyed the story, Wolfgang.

Thanks, Tim.

I'm thinking the next installment might be about the relative merits
of various agar recipes for Phytophthora cultures.....something else I
know absolutely nothing about. Should be loads of fun!

giles
who cannot, for the life of him, remember where he was on August 6 or
August 9, 1945.....despite all the fuss.

On Sep 15, 10:25*am, Giles wrote:
On Sep 14, 8:29*pm, "Tim J."
wrote:

"jeff" wrote in message

t...
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tom, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... enjoy a good smoke.

Mmmmmmmmm. . . cigars.

Ewwwwwwwww. . . rope. * * *

Oh, yeah. I very much enjoyed the story, Wolfgang.

Thanks, Tim.

I'm thinking the next installment might be about the relative merits
of various agar recipes for Phytophthora cultures.....something else I
know absolutely nothing about. *Should be loads of fun! * * *

giles
who cannot, for the life of him, remember where he was on August 6 or
August 9, 1945.....despite all the fuss.

There are various agar recipes? I thought agar was agar.

-riverman

On 16/09/2010 6:19 AM, --riverman wrote:

There are various agar recipes? I thought agar was agar.

-riverman

Agar is the gelatinous base used as an ingredient for microbiological
media. It can be, and is, variously modified using a variety of
nutrients (some defined, some not) to suit the task the media are needed
for. The handbook of Microbiological Media by Atlas lists some 4000 recipes.

Tim Lysyk

On Sep 16, 8:13*am, Tim Lysyk wrote:
On 16/09/2010 6:19 AM, --riverman wrote:



There are various agar recipes? I thought agar was agar.

-riverman

Agar is the gelatinous base used as an ingredient for microbiological
media. It can be, and is, variously modified using a variety of
nutrients (some defined, some not) to suit the task the media are needed
for.

Also often modified with things that are manifestly NOT
nutrients.....depends on what what wants to grow.....and NOT grow. A
classic example woult be testing a new antibiotic. Some plates would
be prepared without the antibiotic and some with, for the obvious
reason.

The handbook of Microbiological Media by Atlas lists some 4000 recipes.

Tim Lysyk

And it's a dead certainty that they've missed more than just a few.
Aside from the competition for funding, some people are just downright
secretive, withholding any and all information they can until
publication. And even then many are not as forthcoming as one would
hope (and as they should be) about all manner of things. Many a paper
has been published in many a respected peer reviewed journal with
lacunae that should have disqualified it. Sometimes makes a boy
wonder who is blowing whom.

giles