Um, Ken..., or, suddenly, $24,000.00 for a evening out in NYC seems like a bargain...

On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:48:12 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Obama is truly pathological. When I suggested it
I was not employing a rhetorical device, I mean
it - not rational.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Man, I don't think he's pathological...oh, he may not always be rational, but I
think it is excessive for you to call him "pathological."

HTH,
R
....oh, sure, you may THINK you are saying one thing, but WE know what you REALLY
mean...

wrote:
snip

You've got a screw loose, poor thing.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Nov 4, 9:39*am, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:48:12 -0500, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
Obama is truly pathological. When I suggested it
I was not employing a rhetorical device, I mean
it *- not rational.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Man, I don't think he's pathological...oh, he may not always be rational, but I
think it is excessive for you to call him "pathological."

HTH,
R
...oh, sure, you may THINK you are saying one thing, but WE know what you REALLY
mean...

Richard, outing you on this stuff just gets easier and easier. Here is
a cite. EVEN RUPPERT MURDOCK's WSJ gagged at your lie, well lets just
say the lie you passed on. WJS says your take is bullcrap. Do you even
care?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/1...s-obamas-asia-...

Why do you think that it is necessary to pay your Rightard dues by
posting the crap from the Rightard Morning Talking Points E-mail on
ROFF? Can't you find some other more fertile field to grow these ****
cabbages? Or at least disguise it better? There are enough real issues
and differences if one really must post polit stuff.

Dave

DaveS wrote:
... There are enough real issues
and differences if one really must post polit stuff.

Hear, hear.

If you want to talk about really costly scandals you can
talk about the EP-3E Aries II aircraft which collided with
a Chinese jet over the South China Sea in April 2001. The
pilot along with 23 other officers and enlisted men on board
managed to make an emergency landing on Chinese soil. The
Chinese returned the 24 sailors but kept the aircraft.

The sailors, hereafter referred to as the bozos, were attached
to the National Security Agency, also bozos but let's not make
this complicated. The bozos were supposed to disable and destroy
all the equipment and software on the aircraft especially the
N.S.A. operating system on the computers. The bozos erased the
hard drive but they didn't destroy it.

The Chinese reverse-engineered the N.S.A. operating system and
had a detailed road map for decrypting the Navy's intelligence
and operational data which they proceeded to do until Obama's
team came on board. Obama ordered the complete replacement of
the EP-3E operating system at a cost of many, many trips to
India. The Navy has "no comment" and the actual cost is classified.

This is all prelude to the battle over who will be in charge
of cyber security, the N.S.A. and the military or civilians.
Really, there's a battle. The same bozos who couldn't find their
own asses with both hands and a flashlight want to be in charge
national cyber security. I wish I were joking.

Thank god for Obama, if not for him the Chinese would still be
reading about everything the Navy was up to and the military-
cyber complex would be even more a menace than it is currently.
Who do you want in charge of cyber security, the whiz kids with
the nose rings and tattoos or the bozos who join the military
because they're not bright enough to get a real job ? And who
do you think the Republicans would put in charge ?

This is the real ****, not some travel budget crap whipped up
by the whackjobs.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
DaveS wrote:
... There are enough real issues
and differences if one really must post polit stuff.

Hear, hear.

If you want to talk about really costly scandals you can
talk about the EP-3E Aries II aircraft which collided with
a Chinese jet over the South China Sea in April 2001. ...

Oops, meant to post this URL too:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...1fa_fact_hersh

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 2010-11-05 14:51:59 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

**** snipped:

Yep, that happend. A Chinese mig was buzzing them in international
waters. The mig driver made a bad mistake and collided with the EP-3a.
The pilot of the mig died. The Navy pilot managed to land the elint
collection aircraft on a Chinese island. Very skillful driving whether
or not Fortenberry, the sexual intellect of roff, knows it.

So, let me get this right.....
A hotshot Chinese pilot flying a Sukoi Su-27 (NATO designation
Flanker), a single person, mach 2 fighter/interceper, along with
several *other* Su-27s are buzzing this EP-3a (an old Orion aircraft
from the 60's that drives veeeeeery slow). The P-3 is flying 70 miles
from the nearest Chinese land, Hainan Island. The Chinese pilot dies
(tuff ****, eh?), while the impact sends the EP-3 into a 30° dive at a
bank angle of 130°, almost inverted. It dropped 8,000*feet in
30*seconds, and fell another 6,000*feet before the pilot, Lt. Shane
Osborn got the EP-3's wings level and the nose up. In a September 2003
article in Naval Aviation News, Osborn said that once he regained
control of the plane he "called for the crew to prepare to bail out."
He then managed to control the aircraft's descent by using emergency
power on the working engines, such that an emergency landing on Hainan
became a possibility. That's what happened.

Now our sexual intellect Fortenberry, who has never flown in a military
aircraft let alone been on a ferret flight and has never served his
country in ANY way, has never risked his life nor had a tight ass
moment while in *any* military expects the crew to destroy an enormous
amount of classified equipment/documents while experience what I have
just outlined. I know Fortenberry. If he was aboard that aircraft he
would be strapped in his seat, praising the Chinese pilot while
****ting his pants. Do you think our Kenny would have been able to
destroy any equipment while the aircraft is nearly inverted (upside
down, Ken) descending very quickly at a 30 degree angle? Yeah, neither
do I?

Kenny talks a great fight, but he has nothing. Thanks to Obama? Yeah,
for putting us in a debt we will never recover from. For monitizing
almost $2 TRILLION of our debt (buying it back).

The Russians and the Chinese are not who we should worry about. People
like Fortenberry are the real enemies and fill me with more fear than
I've ever had.

Would someone on roff do me a favor, please? Copy this and paste it in
another post. It seems our coward(s) Fortenberry (and the sock Todd)
has blocked my posts, or so he says.

BTW, Kenny. Most if not all the the men I served with in the Naval
Security Group that worked for NSA on the ground, in the air, on
surface ships and submarines were bright enough to get "real" jobs when
they left the military. The ones I am in communications with are all
wealthy and retired, living the good life. Most joined the military to
get a college education. Like me they made their fortunes AFTER they
served their country. They joined out of a sense of duty, and could
not get into any of the service's security groups (Navy, Army, Air
Force) without exemplary scores and very rigid back ground checks. Ask
Frank Reid. He served in the Air Force's equivalent. They are true
patriots, not cockroaches like you.

Dave
Cryptologic Technician (Technical) Chief, USN, ret

PS Remember when this happened, Kenny? I said we should send in a
couple of Tomcats and bomb the hell out of the EP3a but you were all
concerned about "collateral damage." Whose side are you on, Kenny?
Really? Whose side are you on?

On Nov 5, 2:30*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-11-05 14:51:59 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

**** snipped:

Yep, that happend. *A Chinese mig was buzzing them in international
waters. *The mig driver made a bad mistake and collided with the EP-3a.
*The pilot of the mig died. *The Navy pilot managed to land the elint
collection aircraft on a Chinese island. *Very skillful driving whether
or not Fortenberry, the sexual intellect of roff, knows it.

So, let me get this right.....
A hotshot Chinese pilot flying a Sukoi Su-27 (NATO designation
Flanker), a single person, mach 2 fighter/interceper, along with
several *other* Su-27s are buzzing this EP-3a (an old Orion aircraft
from the 60's that drives veeeeeery slow). *The P-3 is flying 70 miles
from the nearest Chinese land, Hainan Island. *The Chinese pilot dies
(tuff ****, eh?), while the impact sends the EP-3 into a 30° dive at a
bank angle of 130°, almost inverted. It dropped 8,000*feet in
30*seconds, and fell another 6,000*feet *before the pilot, Lt. Shane
Osborn got the EP-3's wings level and the nose up. In a September 2003
article in Naval Aviation News, Osborn said that once he regained
control of the plane he "called for the crew to prepare to bail out."
He then managed to control the aircraft's descent by using emergency
power on the working engines, such that an emergency landing on Hainan
became a possibility. * That's what happened.

Now our sexual intellect Fortenberry, who has never flown in a military
aircraft let alone been on a ferret flight and has never served his
country in ANY way, has never risked his life nor had a tight ass
moment while in *any* military expects the crew to destroy an enormous
amount of classified equipment/documents while experience what I have
just outlined. *I know Fortenberry. *If he was aboard that aircraft he
would be strapped in his seat, praising the Chinese pilot while
****ting his pants. *Do you think our Kenny would have been able to
destroy any equipment while the aircraft is nearly inverted (upside
down, Ken) descending very quickly at a 30 degree angle? *Yeah, neither
do I?

Kenny talks a great fight, but he has nothing. *Thanks to Obama? *Yeah,
for putting us in a debt we will never recover from. *For monitizing
almost $2 TRILLION of our debt (buying it back).

The Russians and the Chinese are not who we should worry about. *People
like Fortenberry are the real enemies and fill me with more fear than
I've ever had.

Would someone on roff do me a favor, please? *Copy this and paste it in
another post. *It seems our coward(s) Fortenberry (and the sock Todd)
has blocked my posts, or so he says.

BTW, Kenny. *Most if not all the the men I served with in the Naval
Security Group that worked for NSA on the ground, in the air, on
surface ships and submarines were bright enough to get "real" jobs when
they left the military. *The ones I am in communications with are all
wealthy and retired, living the good life. *Most joined the military to
get a college education. *Like me they made their fortunes AFTER they
served their country. *They joined out of a sense of duty, and could
not get into any of the service's security groups (Navy, Army, Air
Force) without exemplary scores and very rigid back ground checks. *Ask
Frank Reid. *He served in the Air Force's equivalent. *They are true
patriots, not cockroaches like you.

Dave
Cryptologic Technician (Technical) Chief, USN, ret

PS *Remember when this happened, Kenny? *I said we should send in a
couple of Tomcats and bomb the hell out of the EP3a but you were all
concerned about "collateral damage." *Whose side are you on, Kenny? *
Really? *Whose side are you on?

Did you read Ken's post? He was talking about the OPERATING SYSTEM,
not all the other material you focused on. Hit him on what he said,
not on what you wanted him to say.

Dave

On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Nov 5, 2:30*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-11-05 14:51:59 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:


Did you read Ken's post? He was talking about the OPERATING SYSTEM,
not all the other material you focused on. Hit him on what he said,
not on what you wanted him to say.

OK, howsabout this - if Ken (or Seymour Hersh, etc.) actually knew anything
truly important about NSA or Navy security, he wouldn't be talking about it on a
FFing NG (and Hersh wouldn't be writing about it in New Yorker). I'd merely
point out that the ability to see what is being transmitted in no way translates
into the ability to understand what it means...a fact that he (and you, et al)
proves on regular basis...

HTH,
R


Dave

On Nov 6, 5:26*am, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Nov 5, 2:30*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-11-05 14:51:59 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

Did you read Ken's post? He was talking about the OPERATING SYSTEM,
not all the other material you focused on. Hit him on what he said,
not on what you wanted him to say.

OK, howsabout this - if Ken (or Seymour Hersh, etc.) actually knew anything
truly important about NSA or Navy security, he wouldn't be talking about it on a
FFing NG (and Hersh wouldn't be writing about it in New Yorker). *I'd merely
point out that the ability to see what is being transmitted in no way translates
into the ability to understand what it means...a fact that he (and you, et al)
proves on regular basis...

HTH,
R


Moron.

g.

wrote:
wrote:
Did you read Ken's post? He was talking about the OPERATING SYSTEM,
not all the other material you focused on. Hit him on what he said,
not on what you wanted him to say.

OK, howsabout this - if Ken (or Seymour Hersh, etc.) actually knew anything
truly important about NSA or Navy security, he wouldn't be talking about it on a
FFing NG (and Hersh wouldn't be writing about it in New Yorker). I'd merely
point out that the ability to see what is being transmitted in no way translates
into the ability to understand what it means...a fact that he (and you, et al)
proves on regular basis...

If you could tear yourself away from the whackosphere long enough
to actually read something you'd realize that the Chinese were
able to both intercept *and* decrypt US Navy intelligence from
2003 to 2008. Hersh quotes two retired Admirals who verify this
and the Navy does not deny it.

Compare this real scandal to the silly bull**** you rant about
which has been debunked by everyone from the Pentagon to the
Wall Street Journal and you understand why you appear to be such
a nutcase.

--
Ken Fortenberry