Woe be unto ye

On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:22:02 -0800 (PST), Giles
wrote:

THIS is what comes of having a family! I do not recommend it. :
(
*snippage*

giles
who, like he ain't already got enough to do!

Cool. I looked at my first e-reader this holiday past and I too have
to admit that I was impressed. I downloaded books into my Palm Z22 for
years and when you had the auto scrolll set right it wasn't a bad way
to read books. But the Nook I looked at had fantastic resolution on
the print in comparison. I am considering a purchase.

Geo. C.

n Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:44:08 -0600, georgecleveland
wrote:

On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:22:02 -0800 (PST), Giles
wrote:

THIS is what comes of having a family! I do not recommend it. :
(
*snippage*

giles
who, like he ain't already got enough to do!

Cool. I looked at my first e-reader this holiday past and I too have
to admit that I was impressed. I downloaded books into my Palm Z22 for
years and when you had the auto scrolll set right it wasn't a bad way
to read books. But the Nook I looked at had fantastic resolution on
the print in comparison. I am considering a purchase.

Geo. C.

I used to travel 20 weeks a yr and I read a LOT as I always had a book
I was reading w me
I use to search the NY Times Biook review fior paperbacks so that I
could carrry them more easily

I do not read a s much now
If I did I would buy the Kindle or another type reader in a minutye
My granddaughter uses hers all the time

Now - If I could get music scores on a reader?????

Fred

On Jan 6, 11:44*pm, georgecleveland wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:22:02 -0800 (PST), Giles
wrote:

THIS is what comes of having a family! *I do not recommend it. * * * :
(

*snippage*

giles
who, like he ain't already got enough to do!

Cool. I looked at my first e-reader this holiday past and I too have
to admit that I was impressed. I downloaded books into my Palm Z22 for
years and when you had the auto scrolll set right it wasn't a bad way
to read books. But the Nook I looked at had fantastic resolution on
the print in comparison. I am considering a purchase.

Geo. C.

I used a Sony hend-held for several years. It was way cool to be able
to download books and carry them around in my pocket. But after the
inital buzz wore off, honest evaluation set in. It was a very tedious
way to read for many reasons.

The Kindle (and others of its ilk, I assume) is a vast improvement.
First and foremost, it looks and feels and reads much like a book.
This is crucially important.

However, I've already noted some things I'd change. First, a book
should open to two facing pages. Anything else is just not right.
And I'm not crazy about moving about from page to page by pushing a
button. I'd much rather "flip" the pages by swiping them with a
fingertip. And then there is the matter of pagination. A "page" on
the Kindle is whatever will fit on the screen in the given space at a
given type size. Which is to say that it can change (easily) in any
book. Books shouldn't do that (well, yeah, they should.....but they
never have.....it's weird.) It is probably this malleability that
lies behind the fact that pages are not numbered (except, perhaps, in
PDF files.....I haven't looked at any of those yet. This doesn't feel
right, either. To be sure, the Kindle has a way of tracking where you
are, and makes it easy to return there if you want to.....but it just
isn't the same as having honest and immutable pages.

And one needs to have several sizes for different reading situations
and evironments. Color graphics would also be good.....at least for
some applications.....field guides, for instance.

All that said (and there's more) I still like it.

Gotta go read now.

Wolfgang

Giles wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:44 pm, georgecleveland wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:22:02 -0800 (PST), Giles
wrote:

THIS is what comes of having a family! I do not recommend it. :
(
*snippage*

giles
who, like he ain't already got enough to do!
Cool. I looked at my first e-reader this holiday past and I too have
to admit that I was impressed. I downloaded books into my Palm Z22 for
years and when you had the auto scrolll set right it wasn't a bad way
to read books. But the Nook I looked at had fantastic resolution on
the print in comparison. I am considering a purchase.

Geo. C.

I used a Sony hend-held for several years. It was way cool to be able
to download books and carry them around in my pocket. But after the
inital buzz wore off, honest evaluation set in. It was a very tedious
way to read for many reasons.

The Kindle (and others of its ilk, I assume) is a vast improvement.
First and foremost, it looks and feels and reads much like a book.
This is crucially important.

However, I've already noted some things I'd change. First, a book
should open to two facing pages. Anything else is just not right.
And I'm not crazy about moving about from page to page by pushing a
button. I'd much rather "flip" the pages by swiping them with a
fingertip.
I-Pad does all the above BUT at a price...


And then there is the matter of pagination. A "page" on
the Kindle is whatever will fit on the screen in the given space at a
given type size. Which is to say that it can change (easily) in any
book. Books shouldn't do that (well, yeah, they should.....but they
never have.....it's weird.) It is probably this malleability that
lies behind the fact that pages are not numbered (except, perhaps, in
PDF files.....I haven't looked at any of those yet. This doesn't feel
right, either. To be sure, the Kindle has a way of tracking where you
are, and makes it easy to return there if you want to.....but it just
isn't the same as having honest and immutable pages.

And one needs to have several sizes for different reading situations
and evironments. Color graphics would also be good.....at least for
some applications.....field guides, for instance.

All that said (and there's more) I still like it.

Gotta go read now.

Wolfgang


For a free reader that works pretty well grab a copy of yBook.

http://www.spacejock.com/yBook.html

Works pretty well, handles a lot of formats, and many customizable
items. Drawback is that it only runs on a computer so isn't real
portable like the E-readers.


--
Steve W.

On 01/07/2011 09:45 PM, Steve W. wrote:
Giles wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:44 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:22:02 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

THIS is what comes of having a family! I do not recommend it. :
(
*snippage*

giles
who, like he ain't already got enough to do!
Cool. I looked at my first e-reader this holiday past and I too have
to admit that I was impressed. I downloaded books into my Palm Z22 for
years and when you had the auto scrolll set right it wasn't a bad way
to read books. But the Nook I looked at had fantastic resolution on
the print in comparison. I am considering a purchase.

Geo. C.

I used a Sony hend-held for several years. It was way cool to be able
to download books and carry them around in my pocket. But after the
inital buzz wore off, honest evaluation set in. It was a very tedious
way to read for many reasons.

The Kindle (and others of its ilk, I assume) is a vast improvement.
First and foremost, it looks and feels and reads much like a book.
This is crucially important.

However, I've already noted some things I'd change. First, a book
should open to two facing pages. Anything else is just not right.
And I'm not crazy about moving about from page to page by pushing a
button. I'd much rather "flip" the pages by swiping them with a
fingertip.
I-Pad does all the above BUT at a price...

The biggest of which is eye strain. Extended reading on a back-lit
screen can be very tiring.

Russell

On 01/08/2011 08:32 AM, Russell D. wrote:
On 01/07/2011 09:45 PM, Steve W. wrote:
Giles wrote:
On Jan 6, 11:44 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:22:02 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

THIS is what comes of having a family! I do not recommend it. :
(
*snippage*

giles
who, like he ain't already got enough to do!
Cool. I looked at my first e-reader this holiday past and I too have
to admit that I was impressed. I downloaded books into my Palm Z22 for
years and when you had the auto scrolll set right it wasn't a bad way
to read books. But the Nook I looked at had fantastic resolution on
the print in comparison. I am considering a purchase.

Geo. C.

I used a Sony hend-held for several years. It was way cool to be able
to download books and carry them around in my pocket. But after the
inital buzz wore off, honest evaluation set in. It was a very tedious
way to read for many reasons.

The Kindle (and others of its ilk, I assume) is a vast improvement.
First and foremost, it looks and feels and reads much like a book.
This is crucially important.

However, I've already noted some things I'd change. First, a book
should open to two facing pages. Anything else is just not right.
And I'm not crazy about moving about from page to page by pushing a
button. I'd much rather "flip" the pages by swiping them with a
fingertip.
I-Pad does all the above BUT at a price...

The biggest of which is eye strain. Extended reading on a back-lit
screen can be very tiring.

Russell

Some day, I'll have to retire the old Palm M515 I've been using as a
"book" in favor of the real thing. It'd be nice to be able to see more
than one paragraph at a time. Still, for now it seems that all I read
are college textbooks. I'll wait a few months until I can once again
read for pleasure rather than the memorization of facts and factoids.

On Jan 9, 5:47*pm, Mark Allread none@none wrote:


Some day, I'll have to retire the old Palm M515 I've been using as a
"book" in favor of the real thing. It'd be nice to be able to see more
than one paragraph at a time. Still, for now it seems that all I read
are college textbooks. I'll wait a few months until I can once again
read for pleasure rather than the memorization of facts and factoids.

Not to belittle memorization of facts and factoids (as noble a pursuit
as most humans seem incapable of imagining.....let alone pursuing or
accomplishing), but reading for pleasure (which, it should be
remembered, by no means precludes edification) is, at one and the same
time, among both the most selfish and most selfless of all the
activities that one can engage in.

But, as is often the case, Mr. Clemens said it better.....and more
succinctly: "The man who does not read good books has no advantage
over the man who can't read them."

Food (and good, nutritious food at that) for thought.

Wolfgang

Giles wrote:
On Jan 9, 5:47 pm, Mark Allread none@none wrote:


Some day, I'll have to retire the old Palm M515 I've been using as a
"book" in favor of the real thing. It'd be nice to be able to see more
than one paragraph at a time. Still, for now it seems that all I read
are college textbooks. I'll wait a few months until I can once again
read for pleasure rather than the memorization of facts and factoids.

Not to belittle memorization of facts and factoids (as noble a pursuit
as most humans seem incapable of imagining.....let alone pursuing or
accomplishing), but reading for pleasure (which, it should be
remembered, by no means precludes edification) is, at one and the same
time, among both the most selfish and most selfless of all the
activities that one can engage in.

But, as is often the case, Mr. Clemens said it better.....and more
succinctly: "The man who does not read good books has no advantage
over the man who can't read them."

Food (and good, nutritious food at that) for thought.

Wolfgang

I'll read just about anything. From classic stuff to tech manuals.
Started that well before I started school. Had an extended stay in a
hospital when I was about 4 and got so bored I started reading anything
I could get. I had nurses bringing me in books from home and the local
library as well as the ones my parents would bring down.

Fast forward a few years to a speed reading course in HS. The teacher
there started out with a speed and comprehension study to see where we
were starting at. The only problem was that I was way off the top end of
the chart. Without skipping words or paragraphs the way she wanted us to
do. I ended up taking the final the second day of class.
During the same time frame I was also a Literacy volunteer at the local
neighborhood center.


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Steve W.