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Old March 12th, 2011, 12:57 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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I love them.

I have never lived w/o one.
Great companions and some wonderful fishing dogs.

I have a question for some of ROFF

What do you do when you are in or near a campground?
Do you tie them up at anytime or are they obediant enough to know to
stay !! always w/o question!
Same w the river and other fishermen
Do they run around or do they only stay by your side?

I would like to take our standard poodle and I have not had nor
trained a fishing dog for many years.
( our Border Collie stays home in hhis borders)

Any tips on training in that situation would be helpful

I thoughht that if I brought some DAWG music by David Grisman and
Jerry Garcia, that it would penetrate her mind to know exactly what I
want of her
Poodles are amongst the smartest dogs

Thanks
Cesar Millan
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Old March 12th, 2011, 02:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 12, 5:31*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-03-11 19:57:39 -0500, said:



I love them.


I know that RW has a Border Collie (I think) that he takes fishing, and
Mark Bowen has a Shepard that he takes fishing. *However, I have Jenny
(a Golden) that I would never take to the stream because she barks when
I wade.

I have seen other dogs, Border Collies, Labs, and just plain old mutts,
sit by while their master fly fishes.

That said, there are few things worse than a dog barking or jumping on
you when you are trying to fish. *If it can't behave, it should stay at
home.

Dave


I like to take a dog or two when I go fishing, IF they are well
behaved. My old Border Collie is the best. She likes to hide in the
weeds and watch me with Border Collie intensity.

A poodle might be a problem because they like to get in the water.

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Old March 13th, 2011, 07:10 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:56:01 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:31*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-03-11 19:57:39 -0500, said:

That said, there are few things worse than a dog barking or jumping on
you when you are trying to fish. *If it can't behave, it should stay at
home.

Dave


I like to take a dog or two when I go fishing, IF they are well
behaved. My old Border Collie is the best. She likes to hide in the
weeds and watch me with Border Collie intensity.

A poodle might be a problem because they like to get in the water.


April is 2 yrs old - now is a good time to train her.

I would not take her unless I am assuired that she will not run wild
bothering people or other fishermen or running down wildlife
She has to obey me 100% and behave w a lead rope

We are also proceeding w our plan to certify her a therapy dog.\
She is beautiful obedient, cute ,sedate (sometimes) and friendly
AlHto she can be stand-offish if you approach my wife or I
unsexpectedly.

Poodles are smart- we shall see

Ivan Pavlov
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Old March 13th, 2011, 09:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 13, 1:18*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-03-13 15:10:56 -0400, said:



We are also proceeding w our plan to certify her a therapy dog.\
She is beautiful obedient, cute ,sedate (sometimes) and friendly
AlHto she can be stand-offish if you approach my wife or I
unsexpectedly.


Ah, Fred...... ahhh, you don't have to worry about me approaching you
our your wife unsexpectedly or sexpectedly.

d;o)


We have a Grand North American Yellow Cur (sometimes mistaken for a
Rez dog) that accompanys us fishing. But we are usually alone. When
there are other folks fishing it does not work. Annie prefers us to
fish on top but her go to wet is a sunken muddler.

Dave
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Old March 15th, 2011, 11:47 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 3/12/2011 5:50 PM, Tom Littleton wrote:
On 3/11/2011 7:57 PM, wrote:

I love them.

I have never lived w/o one.
Great companions and some wonderful fishing dogs.

I have a question for some of ROFF

What do you do when you are in or near a campground?


I currently own a miniature American Eskimo. At camp, I often let him
off the leash....he more or less hangs around me. I do NOT take him to
the stream with me, as he barks at all familiar souls he spots.
On the other hand, I have owned a couple of dogs who were perfect
fishing companions. One would mainly stay near you and nap, the other
would wander the nearby woods, but never go in the water. He would bark,
but only to alert me of strangers. Friends of mine, he would amble
alongside, as if to escort them to my spot, and then dash off again
after rabbits and squirrels.

Tom


i don't like leaving my dog alone. she'd want to know everyone in the
campground, and i'd have to keep her restrained in some form. really not
fair to her. my golden goes fishing with me only when i go in the boat.
i'd not try to take her fly fishing in mountain streams that require
hiking and stalking and a bit of stealth. if i was just camping away
from people, she'd be great and hang around me but greet and play with
anyone who came into the area. i carry a leash, but only use it when
absolutely necessary. there are too few places a dog can be free of
restraints anymore, so i like to let her run when she can. she's a hoot
on the salt marsh islands.

i have seen only a few dogs with enough discipline or training to be
appropriate companions in trout fly fishing environs. rw's dog was the
best i've observed, and mark's big german shephard was a close second.
charlie choc was working on his, but s/he showed promise too. most dogs
become so enthusiastic and interested in nature's bounty they can't keep
out of the way and they frequently disturb the water and the trout.
different when fishing from boats, obviously.

jeff
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Old March 15th, 2011, 04:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Dawgz

wrote:
I love them.

I have never lived w/o one.
Great companions and some wonderful fishing dogs.

I have a question for some of ROFF

What do you do when you are in or near a campground?
Do you tie them up at anytime or are they obediant enough to know to
stay !! always w/o question!
Same w the river and other fishermen
Do they run around or do they only stay by your side? ...


Having the dog along is one of the reasons I almost always fish
alone and in places where I know it's unlikely I will encounter
anyone else. I don't mind the dog wandering through where I'm
trying to fish but I'm pretty sure most other folks would. I'd
rather fish with my dog than with another human so that's what
I do.

Same with campsites. I don't camp in crowded campgrounds but in
remote paddle-in or carry-in campsites so my dog can have the
run of the place. If I am forced to use a regular campground the
dog is always leashed for her own safety.

I thoughht that if I brought some DAWG music by David Grisman and
Jerry Garcia, that it would penetrate her mind to know exactly what I
want of her
Poodles are amongst the smartest dogs


And you sir, have most excellent taste in music. But I kinda
doubt Garcia/Grisman will have much value as a dog training aid. ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry
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Old March 20th, 2011, 07:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Same with campsites. I don't camp in crowded campgrounds but in
remote paddle-in or carry-in campsites so my dog can have the
run of the place. If I am forced to use a regular campground the
dog is always leashed for her own safety.

I thoughht that if I brought some DAWG music by David Grisman and
Jerry Garcia, that it would penetrate her mind to know exactly what I
want of her
Poodles are amongst the smartest dogs



And you sir, have most excellent taste in music. But I kinda
doubt Garcia/Grisman will have much value as a dog training aid. ;-)


=====

Garcia never grabbed me nor did the Dead.
(Though Garcia is truly w the Dead now).

Grisman is another story.

He is a prolific musician and mandolinist.
My granddaughter grew up listening to their chidremn's songs (Not Only
For Kids)
She had to listen to my somewhat stumbling and sometimes
screeeeeeching attempts to play these songs on fiddle
esp Jennny Jenklin
We can now play this well together - she plays piano

Grisman has 8 or 10 albums w his Dawg music
It can't hurt April the poodle if I play her Dawg music.

Perhaps through

osmosis

It will seep into her poodle brain and she will be an even better and
a more obedient better dog.
You are correct - I can only take her were we are alone - I would not
bring her unles she learns nort to bother other campers and fishermen

Fred
 




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