Peacock herl

On Mar 28, 2:14*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

D. LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry said:
Frank Reid 2010 wrote:
If you used a Norvise, ...

You actually use one of those things ?...

If only he knew. *Right, Frank?

Too hard to learn. *Too expensive. *Too big.
I've heard them all, damn thing pretty much takes out the drudge work.
Frank Reid
(and if anyone would ever want Drudge to be gone, it would be Forty)

I don't know, the Norvise just strikes me as some sort of
Rube Golberg contraption. Yeah sure, you can have a pinball
hit the match that lights the candle that burns the string
that holds the weight above the walnut you want to crack.
Or you can just crack the damn thing with a nutcracker.

I suppose if you're a production tier it might have some
value but to a ten-twenty dozen a year guy like me I don't
see the need. YMMV

--
Ken Fortenberry

I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. Speed is
also an issue. Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

On 28/03/2011 1:26 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:


I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. Speed is
also an issue. Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

On 3/28/2011 6:55 PM, Tim Lysyk wrote:

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

enough of a pain to make you rush out and buy a Renzetti or Danvise, or
stick with any of a couple dozen quality stationary vises. Mind you, I
am a big fan of rotary tying. It comes in handy for ribbing and hackling
even if you aren't tying production, and makes production tying
considerably quicker on some types of patterns. Still, I found the
Norvise to be far more gimmick than all-around tying tool. YMMV, of
course. That Frank swears by it is a plus....it must, at least, be safe
to use.g
Tom

On Mar 28, 5:55*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
On 28/03/2011 1:26 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:



I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. *Speed is
also an issue. *Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. *I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying *flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

The abdomen is quite easy to do. I've found I can get nice constant
tension (and the tension of the rotary is adjustable) when spinning on
the pheasant. Alternately, it locks at 90 degree points to work on
specific areas.
A secondary part is the spring loaded bobbin. After using this (and
this is an inherent part of using the Nor Vise) for a bit, you don't
really wanna go back to regular. The ability to just let go of the
bobbin so it can hang below the fly and also to take up the extra
slack by just moving the bobbin toward the fly is a great combination.
Frank Reid

On Mar 28, 5:55*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
On 28/03/2011 1:26 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:



I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. *Speed is
also an issue. *Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. *I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying *flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

And completely ignore Tom. He is Luddite Renzetti snob that doesn't
understand innovation. He would have had Henry Ford make a faster
horse. He's been hangin' with the Amish too long.
Frank Reid
(he still uses bobbers)

On 3/29/2011 9:00 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

And completely ignore Tom. He is Luddite Renzetti snob that doesn't
understand innovation. He would have had Henry Ford make a faster
horse. He's been hangin' with the Amish too long.
Frank Reid
(he still uses bobbers)

I repeat, twenty years back I was offered my choice, essentially for
free(shop owed me bucks on a fly order and was cash-short). I tested
both for two weeks each, chose the Renzetti, never regretted it. To
salve Frank's fragile ego, however, the accompanying bobbin had not been
developed to it's current state, so 'perhaps' that would have made a
world of difference. I doubt it. The Renzetti does full rotary at a
quick clip, can be infinitely adjusted for rotary tension(to the point
of non-rotary action, if desired), is indestructable, guaranteed for
life(or until the Renzetti family moves out of the country), and can
(with a set of 3 jaws) tie anything from a 2/0 down to #28.
Tom

On 29/03/2011 3:31 PM, Tom Littleton wrote:
On 3/29/2011 9:00 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

And completely ignore Tom. He is Luddite Renzetti snob that doesn't
understand innovation. He would have had Henry Ford make a faster
horse. He's been hangin' with the Amish too long.
Frank Reid
(he still uses bobbers)

I repeat, twenty years back I was offered my choice, essentially for
free(shop owed me bucks on a fly order and was cash-short). I tested
both for two weeks each, chose the Renzetti, never regretted it. To
salve Frank's fragile ego, however, the accompanying bobbin had not been
developed to it's current state, so 'perhaps' that would have made a
world of difference. I doubt it. The Renzetti does full rotary at a
quick clip, can be infinitely adjusted for rotary tension(to the point
of non-rotary action, if desired), is indestructable, guaranteed for
life(or until the Renzetti family moves out of the country), and can
(with a set of 3 jaws) tie anything from a 2/0 down to #28.
Tom

Thanks both for your answers and opinions. I am much less confused now!

Tim Lysyk