Peacock herl

On 28/03/2011 1:26 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:


I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. Speed is
also an issue. Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

On 3/28/2011 11:49 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Frank Reid
(stickin' it to the Renzetti snobs every chance he gets)

this Renzetti user turned down a Norvise to purchase the Renzetti you
have seen so often. Going on 20 years service. The thing is as reliable
as LaCourse's waders and smells far better.
Tom

On 3/28/2011 6:55 PM, Tim Lysyk wrote:

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

enough of a pain to make you rush out and buy a Renzetti or Danvise, or
stick with any of a couple dozen quality stationary vises. Mind you, I
am a big fan of rotary tying. It comes in handy for ribbing and hackling
even if you aren't tying production, and makes production tying
considerably quicker on some types of patterns. Still, I found the
Norvise to be far more gimmick than all-around tying tool. YMMV, of
course. That Frank swears by it is a plus....it must, at least, be safe
to use.g
Tom

On 2011-03-28 19:35:20 -0400, Tom Littleton said:

On 3/28/2011 11:49 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Frank Reid
(stickin' it to the Renzetti snobs every chance he gets)

this Renzetti user turned down a Norvise to purchase the Renzetti you
have seen so often. Going on 20 years service. The thing is as reliable
as LaCourse's waders and smells far better.
Tom

LOL. I've had my Renzetti for about as long as you. I have the left
hand model. Peter Charles used it alot when we were at Lakewood. He
fell in love with it, and instead of buying the right hand model (he's
right handed), he bought the left hand model like mine.

Dave

On 2011-03-28 19:35:20 -0400, Tom Littleton said:

On 3/28/2011 11:49 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Frank Reid
(stickin' it to the Renzetti snobs every chance he gets)

this Renzetti user turned down a Norvise to purchase the Renzetti you
have seen so often. Going on 20 years service. The thing is as reliable
as LaCourse's waders and smells far better.
Tom

Forgot: I have a new set of G3s. I'm still using the old ones down
here and will dedicate the new ones to only the Rapid River.

Dave

On Mar 28, 5:12*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-03-28 14:57:59 -0400, Frank Reid 2010 said:





On Mar 28, 11:03*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-03-28 11:49:36 -0400, Frank Reid 2010 said:

On Mar 27, 4:29*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
I'm tying up some flies and I need a peacock herl rope. *I dislike
making my own (spinning/twisting the herl onto either thread or wire).
*
Someone on this group recently referred to some store-bought peacock
rope. *I've googled and can't find it. *Any help would be apprecia
ted
.

Dave

If you used a Norvise, you would have the appropriate tool to make
this quickly and efficiently instead of spending hours on-line trying
to purchase premade.
:-)
Frank Reid
(stickin' it to the Renzetti snobs every chance he gets)

d;o) *Have both, Frank. *The Norvise is permanently attached to my fl
y
tying station, and I use the Renzetti for traveling. *Regardless, I
still have to make the rope and I just do not like to do it. *But, just
for you, I will acquiesce and try it on the Norvise. *I'll get some new
herl too. *The stuff I have looks good, but breaks too often. *Fly
tying is supposed to be fun.

Dave
(Third day stuck on the mountain within the clouds. *It isn't raining
in the valley, but there has been a constant mist up here for the past
two days. *Neat, really.)- Hide quoted text -

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPTZjmKwpQ

Cheers
Frank

Thanks Frank. *I'm familiar with his videos. *But look at this:

http://www.ezflyfish.com/peacherbrus.html

Old Wally comes thru again. *It's not only easier, but my language will
improve. *d;o)

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Slacker. :-)
Frank Reid

On Mar 28, 5:55*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
On 28/03/2011 1:26 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:



I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. *Speed is
also an issue. *Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. *I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying *flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

The abdomen is quite easy to do. I've found I can get nice constant
tension (and the tension of the rotary is adjustable) when spinning on
the pheasant. Alternately, it locks at 90 degree points to work on
specific areas.
A secondary part is the spring loaded bobbin. After using this (and
this is an inherent part of using the Nor Vise) for a bit, you don't
really wanna go back to regular. The ability to just let go of the
bobbin so it can hang below the fly and also to take up the extra
slack by just moving the bobbin toward the fly is a great combination.
Frank Reid

On Mar 28, 5:55*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
On 28/03/2011 1:26 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:



I like it for the ease of doing things like Dave is going to do,
strengthening hackle or herl to make a more resilient fly. *Speed is
also an issue. *Many of the simple tasks are much cleaner and more
uniform done on the Nor Vise.
In actuality, due to the board setup, I've found that my vise stays
put together longer. *I tie more flies.
Frank Reid

I am kind of intrigued by this.....how is it for tying *flies with an
asymmetric body, such as a pheasant tail nymph, that has a shell back?

Tim Lysyk

And completely ignore Tom. He is Luddite Renzetti snob that doesn't
understand innovation. He would have had Henry Ford make a faster
horse. He's been hangin' with the Amish too long.
Frank Reid
(he still uses bobbers)

On 3/29/2011 9:00 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

And completely ignore Tom. He is Luddite Renzetti snob that doesn't
understand innovation. He would have had Henry Ford make a faster
horse. He's been hangin' with the Amish too long.
Frank Reid
(he still uses bobbers)

I repeat, twenty years back I was offered my choice, essentially for
free(shop owed me bucks on a fly order and was cash-short). I tested
both for two weeks each, chose the Renzetti, never regretted it. To
salve Frank's fragile ego, however, the accompanying bobbin had not been
developed to it's current state, so 'perhaps' that would have made a
world of difference. I doubt it. The Renzetti does full rotary at a
quick clip, can be infinitely adjusted for rotary tension(to the point
of non-rotary action, if desired), is indestructable, guaranteed for
life(or until the Renzetti family moves out of the country), and can
(with a set of 3 jaws) tie anything from a 2/0 down to #28.
Tom

On 29/03/2011 3:31 PM, Tom Littleton wrote:
On 3/29/2011 9:00 AM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

And completely ignore Tom. He is Luddite Renzetti snob that doesn't
understand innovation. He would have had Henry Ford make a faster
horse. He's been hangin' with the Amish too long.
Frank Reid
(he still uses bobbers)

I repeat, twenty years back I was offered my choice, essentially for
free(shop owed me bucks on a fly order and was cash-short). I tested
both for two weeks each, chose the Renzetti, never regretted it. To
salve Frank's fragile ego, however, the accompanying bobbin had not been
developed to it's current state, so 'perhaps' that would have made a
world of difference. I doubt it. The Renzetti does full rotary at a
quick clip, can be infinitely adjusted for rotary tension(to the point
of non-rotary action, if desired), is indestructable, guaranteed for
life(or until the Renzetti family moves out of the country), and can
(with a set of 3 jaws) tie anything from a 2/0 down to #28.
Tom

Thanks both for your answers and opinions. I am much less confused now!

Tim Lysyk