Lapland clave 2004

Long story short: while some of my friends are very punctual, others
have major problems in fixing their timetables - or lack the
willingness to do so. It is most probable that their schedule will
become available very close to the date of departure. It is also
fairly probable that the dates of the trip will overlap the clave.

I, on the other hand, boast on being flexible. :-) Seriously,
personally I prefer to fix the dates early on if possible.

The location I have in mind for the second week is a relatively small
and somewhat isolated river flowing into the Arctic Ocean. The river
contains small salmon (grilse), and presumably also sea-run trout, but
is mostly famous for its sea-run charr. I've never fished this river,
but have heard and read a lot about it. The straw that broke the
camel's back was a discussion I had with a Finnish guy who had been
fishing this river in the last two summers. Hard-fighting sea-run
charr with dries (and nymphs), with the occasional grilse - I decided
that I would really make an effort to visit this river next summer.

The fishing licenses cost much more than in Sweden - something like 27
euros per day. (This is not at all unusual in Norway.) We would be
living in a tent, and we would have to carry a week's supply of food
(something like a five-mile hike).

According to the texts I've seen, the charr run typically begins in
mid-July and lasts until the end of August. The week after the Swedish
clave would probably be better than the week before the clave.

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Jarmo Hurri

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Long story short: while some of my friends are very punctual, others
have major problems in fixing their timetables - or lack the
willingness to do so. It is most probable that their schedule will
become available very close to the date of departure. It is also
fairly probable that the dates of the trip will overlap the clave.

I, on the other hand, boast on being flexible. :-) Seriously,
personally I prefer to fix the dates early on if possible.

The location I have in mind for the second week is a relatively small
and somewhat isolated river flowing into the Arctic Ocean. The river
contains small salmon (grilse), and presumably also sea-run trout, but
is mostly famous for its sea-run charr. I've never fished this river,
but have heard and read a lot about it. The straw that broke the
camel's back was a discussion I had with a Finnish guy who had been
fishing this river in the last two summers. Hard-fighting sea-run
charr with dries (and nymphs), with the occasional grilse - I decided
that I would really make an effort to visit this river next summer.

The fishing licenses cost much more than in Sweden - something like 27
euros per day. (This is not at all unusual in Norway.) We would be
living in a tent, and we would have to carry a week's supply of food
(something like a five-mile hike).

According to the texts I've seen, the charr run typically begins in
mid-July and lasts until the end of August. The week after the Swedish
clave would probably be better than the week before the clave.


Hmmm, this sounds suspiciously like a river I know...this isn't perchance
just southwest of Nordkaap, is it?

--riverman

riverman Hmmm, this sounds suspiciously like a river I know...this
riverman isn't perchance just southwest of Nordkaap, is it?

With the abundance of rivers that the Norwegians have, I guess quite a
few rivers match my description. The river I'm talking about -
Langfjordelva - is actually east of Nordkapp.

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riverman Hmmm, this sounds suspiciously like a river I know...this
riverman isn't perchance just southwest of Nordkaap, is it?

With the abundance of rivers that the Norwegians have, I guess quite a
few rivers match my description. The river I'm talking about -
Langfjordelva - is actually east of Nordkapp.

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Ahh, same general region. I was thinking of the Stabbursdalen, near Lakselv.
How do you get into the watershed of the Langfjordelva? Hike in from Ifjord?

--riverman
(still got my maps)

riverman Ahh, same general region. I was thinking of the
riverman Stabbursdalen, near Lakselv.

Stabburselva is truly a gorgeous river, maybe the most beautiful river
I have ever fished. I was there in 2000 for one day, but did not catch
anything. My friend caught his first salmon there on that day,
though. Fishing the lower parts of the river is fairly expensive - in
2000 it was 40 euros per day.

Anadromous fish can not reach the upper sections of the river
- I guess there is an unpassable waterfall somewhere up the river. The
upper parts of the river are supposed to be even more beautiful - from
what I've heard, it seems that there is a gorgeous valley there
surrounded by mountains from all sides. This region was opened to
public fishing, IIRC, two years ago. This is also on my list of places
to see, but maybe not this year.

riverman How do you get into the watershed of the Langfjordelva? Hike
riverman in from Ifjord?

A five-mile hike is what it needs. Another options is probably to take
the ferry to Laggo (where the river flows into the ocean).

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Stabburselva is truly a gorgeous river, maybe the most beautiful river
I have ever fished......



Somewhere in this thread I saw a post from Asadi in which he expressed an
interest in attending this event. For God's sake, in the name of all that
is decent, do NOT let the boy near this river!

Wolfgang

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riverman Ahh, same general region. I was thinking of the
riverman Stabbursdalen, near Lakselv.

Stabburselva is truly a gorgeous river, maybe the most beautiful river
I have ever fished. I was there in 2000 for one day, but did not catch
anything. My friend caught his first salmon there on that day,
though. Fishing the lower parts of the river is fairly expensive - in
2000 it was 40 euros per day.

Anadromous fish can not reach the upper sections of the river
- I guess there is an unpassable waterfall somewhere up the river. The
upper parts of the river are supposed to be even more beautiful - from
what I've heard, it seems that there is a gorgeous valley there
surrounded by mountains from all sides. This region was opened to
public fishing, IIRC, two years ago. This is also on my list of places
to see, but maybe not this year.

Lauren and I passed by there on our drive around Lapland two years ago. We
didn't have any real roadtrip strategies..we just followed the most
interesting looking roads as we worked our way northwards and enjoyed the
countryside. On our way towards Nordkaap, we were getting tired and decided
to stop at a campground-ish area for a food shop and a shower, and there was
this little store and some tents by a stream, so we pulled in. The pictures
on the wall in the store of those 50kg salmon got my attention, so I asked
the girl (15-16 yo) at the counter how the fishing was in the river. It was
very low water: the gravel bar at the mouth almost closed it off from the
sea. She said that folks hiked upstream to a big lake where there were some
real lunkers. Since I was a complete novice fly fisherman, I was fishing
without permits (I was really just practicing casting, as I had absolutely
no chance of really catching anything), so I hiked upstream that night about
10 km to see what it was like. Of course, not only did I not catch anything,
I never even got a strike or even saw a rise. BUT, it was the most magical,
beautiful wilderness hike I ever did...I stayed out all night (24 hour
daylight) and just enjoyed the hell out of it. Now that I know more about
flyfishing, I think of going back there all the time. It lacks the masses of
the Teno and the circus-like atmosphere of the Altaelva. Sort of like a
mom-and-pop backyard river with 2 meter salmon in it. But with my better
skills, of course I'll buy the permits this time.

--riverman

riverman Sort of like a mom-and-pop backyard river with 2 meter
riverman salmon in it.

Exactly.

In summer 2000 when I was fishing the river there was a heatwave in
the Lappland area. The temperature was something like +25C in the
middle of the night.

We started fishing some time in the afternoon. The place where we
started fishing was a nice island in the middle of the stream. I could
have stayed on this island the whole week! A gorgeous spot, and
because the river is not too massive, you can see the salmon swimming
up the river. Big salmon.

There were two of us on the island, and we started to fish one side of
it so that the other guy waded slowly downstream after me. There was a
really good looking spot on the other side of the stream, and I cast
there a couple of times, but nothing happened. I went to my friend and
showed him the good spot. He landed his first ever salmon on his
second cast to the spot: a silvery 5lb grilse. And this was on the
first day of our trip. Mind you, the next salmon we caught was on the
_last_ day of our 14-day trip, so hooking those salmon can be quite a
bit of work...

Anyway, whereas the other guys went to sleep some time during the
night, I stayed up until the morning. The combination of 25C and the
neoprene waders I had at that time added an extra twist. I think I
sweated at least five liters during the night. But I really did not
even notice it before I returned to the camp and poured those five
liters out of the waders... And no, the waders did not leak, and
neither did I. ;-)

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Jarmo Hurri

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