Lapland clave 2004

Roger Well, here comes what I've discovered so far:

Roger Caddisflies like elk hair caddis (hair winged caddises) with
Roger greenish body. Actually all insect life in the area tend to
Roger have nuances of green. I think it has to do with the greenish
Roger water. Mayflies, also in green nuances. Last time we were up
Roger there an olive variant of the Wulff series flies worked
Roger excellent. Nymphs in the color "guess what", pupaes like the
Roger superpupae (olive). Klinkhamer. Black wooly buggers for
Roger streamers. Actually I've also tried an olive (surprise) variant
Roger with some success. Soft hackles in low water. Stewart's black
Roger spider. And yes, an olive variant.

The two times I've visited northern Sweden I've observed that green
Klinkhämers and Superpupas in various colors are very effective. Why
green Klinkhämers were effective seemed obvious after examining the
contents of the stomachs of a few fish: loads of some green insects
that had almost completed their metamorphosis. Last year Vaughan dug
up a couple of real hits from his vast collection of flies: the
Streaking Caddis and some *very* small fly.

The importance of mayflies up north - which is what you always hear
and read about - has fascinated me for some time. If I remember
correctly, we didn't really catch fish with adult mayfly imitations
last year, but we saw lots of these orange/brown mayflies flying
around:

http://www.cis.hut.fi/jarmo/fishing/...002/mayfly.jpg

Now what will be really interesting is to try to catch some
charr. Never caught one with fly-fishing gear before (just some small
ones with spinning gear). Any special tips for this mysterious but
delicious fish?

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Jarmo Hurri

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Roger Well, here comes what I've discovered so far:

Roger Caddisflies like elk hair caddis (hair winged caddises) with
Roger greenish body. Actually all insect life in the area tend to
Roger have nuances of green. I think it has to do with the greenish
Roger water. Mayflies, also in green nuances. Last time we were up
Roger there an olive variant of the Wulff series flies worked
Roger excellent. Nymphs in the color "guess what", pupaes like the
Roger superpupae (olive). Klinkhamer. Black wooly buggers for
Roger streamers. Actually I've also tried an olive (surprise) variant
Roger with some success. Soft hackles in low water. Stewart's black
Roger spider. And yes, an olive variant.

The two times I've visited northern Sweden I've observed that green
Klinkhämers and Superpupas in various colors are very effective. Why
green Klinkhämers were effective seemed obvious after examining the
contents of the stomachs of a few fish: loads of some green insects
that had almost completed their metamorphosis. Last year Vaughan dug
up a couple of real hits from his vast collection of flies: the
Streaking Caddis and some *very* small fly.

The importance of mayflies up north - which is what you always hear
and read about - has fascinated me for some time. If I remember
correctly, we didn't really catch fish with adult mayfly imitations
last year, but we saw lots of these orange/brown mayflies flying
around:

http://www.cis.hut.fi/jarmo/fishing/...002/mayfly.jpg

Now what will be really interesting is to try to catch some
charr. Never caught one with fly-fishing gear before (just some small
ones with spinning gear). Any special tips for this mysterious but
delicious fish?


Ah, now there's a question for the masters of this pastime called fly
fishing. As you know I plan to hold a mini clave at Ransaran creek, this is
where you will be measured and judged ;-)

The Arctic char is among the most difficult fish to fool. This for a number
of reasons. Arctic char feed mainly on midge pupae's and a fresh water
shrimp "Mysis" of the Mysidae family and as such not often feed on caddis
and/or mayflies. At times they will however feed on these two species'
nymphs. The char's habitat often being very cold water, far north and/or in
the mountains equally often puts them in waters clear as gin. A big Arctic
char will make a sip of a rise not distinguishable from the small Arctic
char doing the same thing.

I never seem to get a grip on how these fish feed. Some of the mystery, I
guess, has its answer in the fact that when feeding on Mysidae or Diptera
there is often an abundance of these in the water and you can cast until
your arm fall off without success. When the char is feeding on such insects
I often, and not without success, trick them with a method that will induce
a take (slightly unethical). I watch them feed as they cruise by and try to
figure out where they are going. Once I think I have a clue I cast a large
caddis fly in their path. Then when the char approaches I simply strip the
fly in front of the fish. Mind you, it doesn't work all the time.

Also, the bigger the char the more difficult. Where you would use a streamer
on a big trout you're not likely to have the same kind of success with this
particular fish. I've seen lb 11 Arctic char feed on Mysis only to duck away
from more than twenty different nymph imitations and streamers presented by
me. Imagine the feeling of seeing such a fish in a 4 yard wide crystal clear
stream, imagine also that you were able to approach to a point within reach
of a cast. Then you get to see this huge fish ignore everything you can
think of.

Sometimes these fish actually rise to caddis or mayflies, often this
coincide with a major hatch. You can sometimes see them rise without any
obvious surface activity regarding insects. At times you're so completely
emptied of ideas that you start thinking of giving up fly fishing.

God, I love this fish. So beautiful and so damn hard to catch.

/Roger

Hi Roger,

sorry for the late reaction, but I was very busy with the planning of my
next trip towards Argentine Patagonia,
next february and march............

I hope to go to Arjeplog with the family next summer again.
If we do I will definitely join the Clave.
But a bit to far ahead now to say for 100% that I will join.

BTW next week I am finally gonna scan my last Clave's slides for you and
will sent them. I promised you before to do it in november, but I did not
make that time shedule.

Hans

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Defended the thesis successfully 10 days ago. Feels like a big weight
had been removed from my chest.

Congrats Jarmo.

Mu

Jeff, out of Dayton Ohio I get somewhere around $1300 round trip, using the
dates of Aug 2 and 10.

On down this thread Riverman penned
* - . . . from Stockholm , it cost $10 for a bus ride to Central Station,
where I got an overnight sleeper train to Umea for $79. After the clave, I
took a bus/train combo back to Stockholm for $59, ... It was a very
affordable way to get to Umea, and all.*

Personally, I would spend a night in Stockholm upon first arrival (never
been there) and a night in Umea (never been there either).

....and would plan on two nights in one of those cities 'after' the
clave....a little R&R as it were.

I'm not saying I should be penciled in, but I have a folder for all
pertinent posts....

I am assured of the trip of my choice next year, but you know, I just have
this thing for tropical climes, cold beer and ...stuff.

Hey Rog, how much for a decent, but not fancy hotel and a steak dinner at a
good restaurant in Stockholm or Umea?

john

Ps. Jeff, I can get your a prescription for muscle relaxers that will
totally eliminate any chance of a blood clot.

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:2ZBDb.22069$hf1.21987@lakeread06...
roger - plug me in for a probable. still a long ways off for me to make
it a definite. and the therapy necessary for me to be able to fly on a
plane that distance will no doubt require significant time. i'll have to
figure out flights, etc., and will require assistance in determining
necessaries... anyone else on this side of the pond considering going?

jeff

Roger Ohlund wrote:

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
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Hi all,


I forgot:

August 2 - August 10. If three or more can decide on other dates then
you
should be able to share a helicopter and make it anything in between
these
dates.

/Roger

"asadi" wrote in message
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Hey Rog, how much for a decent, but not fancy hotel and a steak dinner at
a
good restaurant in Stockholm or Umea?


Hotel.....I'll try and find out for you.
Steak......from US$12 and up.....

/Roger

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
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Hi all,



Attendees so far:

Vaughan Hurry (Tent)
Fred Risberg (Tent)
Roger Ohlund (Tent)
Jarmo Hurri (Tent)
Jerome Phillipon (aka Leaping frog, gets a bed in the cabin)
Myron Buck (aka riverman, gets a bed in the cabin)
Erik Risberg (Tent)
Mike Connor (Tent or the cabin Mike?)

Interested:

Osmo Jauhiainen
Hans Bock
Jeff Miller
John (asadi)

/Roger

Roger Ohlund wrote:
"asadi" wrote in message
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Hey Rog, how much for a decent, but not fancy hotel and a steak
dinner at a good restaurant in Stockholm or Umea?


Hotel.....I'll try and find out for you.
Steak......from US$12 and up.....

/Roger

This might help.

http://www.hotelsswedenonline.com/

yes, I've been looking too

Ran it past SWMBO last night.

"What would you say if I went to Sweden fishing for ten days of our annual
holiday"

SWMBO "How much?"

""About £600"

SWMBO "***$%££"^*(*)*&"

Translation "No darling"



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Hotel.....I'll try and find out for you.
Steak......from US$12 and up.....


John
Beefsteak costs a bit more. "G" Stockholm has great seafood and Italian food
at very reasonaable prices plus good breakfast buffets. at your hotel.

asadi wrote:


Ps. Jeff, I can get your a prescription for muscle relaxers that will
totally eliminate any chance of a blood clot.



it's the blood splat that worries me. but, i believe if adequately
relaxed, i might endure...

jeff