Cutting spey lines.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:04:43 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:05:09 -0500, Peter Charles
wrote:

== Rant Mode On ==

Ya, and it's not even a good beginners line! Their marketing hype is
based on the notion that the short, heavy belly will punch out some
line despite whatever the beginner may do -- but it can also cause
beaucoup problems if the rod isn't loading properly because of the
amount of head beyond the guides isn't right for the rod.


I'm getting a better sense of all this - maybe -
but so far I like the Windcutter for the 11.5'
Loop. I am going to muck around with it some
more, to try to get a more conscious sense of
how it handles short casts. My favorite "small"
spey line for my lighter/shorter pseudo-spey
rods is the Rio salmon/steelhead line.


If your Loop is like my Loop, the fast, light tip will short cast a WC
better than a standard spey rod. I found that even about 10' of my
homemade shooting head loads the tip on my 8/9.

I found the WC 9/10/11 worked great on my 9 wt. provided the entire
head was out of the guides and provided I didn't put a fast sinking
Polyleader on it. Pull half the rear belly into the guides and it
sucked. I talked to people and exchanged posts with people on this
subject and there's no consensus -- some agree with me and some have
no problem with short casts. The difference may be the type of action
of the rod. The Daiwas have the standard spey, stiff-tipped,
progressive action while the Blues are more tippy. The Daiwas won't
do much with a light load. Maybe at the next clave, I'll search out
someone with a 7/8/9 and give it a go on the Blue. After all, the
Blues are made for short heads -- the action is designed to have the
butt energized more by the underhand casting motion and less by the
grains of the line. A long belly would probably just collapse the tip
on mine, while the same line on the Daiwa would just load it deeper
and it would blow it into the next area code.

A surprising number of GLers like that RIO S/AS line as it'll turnover
heavy tips and it's long 65' belly packs a lot of grains for an
overhead WF (I'm guessing at 600 for my WF-10-F). There's no problem
finding the sweet spot on it. It won't blow long casts like a real
spey line (front taper is too blunt and short -- the rest of the belly
is too light) but it is tractable over a broad range of shorter casts.
Too bad it isn't made anymore. I was using a WF-7-F S/AS on my Scott
when we fished the Catt and, despite the Scott being a pretty crappy
spey caster, I could still get into the running line on it. I might
dredge my WFD-10 back out and try it as a traditional line with a
light 15' tip on the end -- that'll give me an 80' head -- solves the
iced up guides problem.

Peter

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