The politics of nature

Good advice. Take it.
How did you manage to read "The Art of War" ?
You must have gotten a Conservative to read the big words for you.

Awe, see, there's your problem. One often ascribes his or her own failings
and frailties to others, because others can't possibly be, in your mind,
better than you. Try http://www.nifl.gov/
By the way, defending the Constitution is not a done by affiliation to a
single party. It is done by folks on both sides. Without liberals and
conservatives, there are no checks and balances, we have no middle, we have
one party rule. I spent too big a part of my life ensuring that doesn't
happen. Learn to live with the concept that people across the spectrum made
the Constitution and, through the history of democracy, have added to it to
make it what it is today.
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Frank Reid
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:33:16 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

Good advice. Take it.
How did you manage to read "The Art of War" ?
You must have gotten a Conservative to read the big words for you.

Awe, see, there's your problem. One often ascribes his or her own failings
and frailties to others, because others can't possibly be, in your mind,
better than you. Try http://www.nifl.gov/
By the way, defending the Constitution is not a done by affiliation to a
single party. It is done by folks on both sides. Without liberals and
conservatives, there are no checks and balances, we have no middle, we have
one party rule. I spent too big a part of my life ensuring that doesn't
happen. Learn to live with the concept that people across the spectrum made
the Constitution and, through the history of democracy, have added to it to
make it what it is today.

What you say is true, however, when I see a small segment of the
population, notably liberals, willing to cede the sovereignty of the
US, I must oppose them.

Strider

What you say is true, however, when I see a small segment of the
population, notably liberals, willing to cede the sovereignty of the
US, I must oppose them.

If true, i.e. the liberals are part of what makes this country great, then
this leads me to believe you don't like that dualism formed by the
conjunction of the two, as you continually denigrate it. By extension, you
don't like the rule of law, formed by that dualism. That rule of law is
based upon the Constitution. Why do you hate America so much?
Secondly, who is willing to cede our sovereignty and how? Could it be
bowing to international pressure on steel prices (George Jr.)? Having NATO
troops stationed on US soil (Ronny)? Using the United Nations to bolster
our own forces (including Russian ships to haul our troops)(George Sr.)?
Face it, its an international world. Oh, and by the way, the Democratic
party (those pesky liberals) are not a small segment, but close to 50% of
the voting population.

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 22:39:35 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

What you say is true, however, when I see a small segment of the
population, notably liberals, willing to cede the sovereignty of the
US, I must oppose them.

If true, i.e. the liberals are part of what makes this country great, then
this leads me to believe you don't like that dualism formed by the
conjunction of the two, as you continually denigrate it. By extension, you
don't like the rule of law, formed by that dualism. That rule of law is
based upon the Constitution. Why do you hate America so much?
Secondly, who is willing to cede our sovereignty and how? Could it be
bowing to international pressure on steel prices (George Jr.)? Having NATO
troops stationed on US soil (Ronny)? Using the United Nations to bolster
our own forces (including Russian ships to haul our troops)(George Sr.)?
Face it, its an international world. Oh, and by the way, the Democratic
party (those pesky liberals) are not a small segment, but close to 50% of
the voting population.


Ah, Frank, you are getting the bull**** engine going again.

BTW. Liberals don't even make up half of the Democrat voters.

Here is something I found you need to know. Americans are no longer
quite as subject to leftwing lies as we once were.

"The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie"

Strider

ROFLMAO

Too much. Go back to school and learn the art of elementary logic and
reasoning, Strider. At least, try to bring some factual information
to the newsgroup for discussion.

LOL

Peace

Ah, Frank, you are getting the bull**** engine going again.

BTW. Liberals don't even make up half of the Democrat voters.

Here is something I found you need to know. Americans are no longer
quite as subject to leftwing lies as we once were.

"The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie"

Strider

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:49:23 -0800, Hayduke wrote:

ROFLMAO

Too much. Go back to school and learn the art of elementary logic and
reasoning, Strider. At least, try to bring some factual information
to the newsgroup for discussion.

LOL

Peace

Factual info is of no use to liberals.

Strider


Ah, Frank, you are getting the bull**** engine going again.

BTW. Liberals don't even make up half of the Democrat voters.

Here is something I found you need to know. Americans are no longer
quite as subject to leftwing lies as we once were.

"The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie"

Strider

"Hayduke" wrote in message
...
ROFLMAO

Too much. Go back to school and learn the art of elementary logic and
reasoning, Strider. At least, try to bring some factual information
to the newsgroup for discussion.

The sweet irony of your paragraph. YOU are the one requesting factual
information? Maybe there IS hope for your cutandpaste mentality. But you
live here. hahahahaha what am I thinking....

LOL
You have that right anyway.

Peace

Ah, Frank, you are getting the bull**** engine going again.

BTW. Liberals don't even make up half of the Democrat voters.

Here is something I found you need to know. Americans are no longer
quite as subject to leftwing lies as we once were.

"The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie"

Strider

"Strider" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
BTW. Liberals don't even make up half of the Democrat voters.

Here is something I found you need to know. Americans are no longer
quite as subject to leftwing lies as we once were.

"The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie"

Strider

Americans? Jesus H. Christ. Some of you dumb *******s even believe you have
a monopoly on lies.

Left? Right? Centre? It all depends where you happen to be sitting at the
time, and who is shooting at you.

Luckily for most of of us non-Americans, ( at least without oil), your aim
is about on a par with your intelligence.

MC

"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
Luckily for most of of us non-Americans, ( at least without oil), your aim
is about on a par with your intelligence.

HEAR, HEAR! Thank you Mr. Connor.

Op --an ugly Amerikan liberal, I think--

MC

Ah, Frank, you are getting the bull**** engine going again.

Ah, anything that opposes your "world view," no matter how valid, is
obviously "bull****."

BTW. Liberals don't even make up half of the Democrat voters.

BTW. Liberal is often the catch phrase for Democrat, as much as
conservative is for Republican. Granted, there are "liberal Democrats and
conservative Republicans" but that is pretty much newspeak tautology.
further survivalist neocon ranting snipped

By the way, could you please (and I ask here politely as opposed to
degenerating into childish schoolyard vitriol), address my points re the
"sovereignty" issues I pointed out? See, Sun Tsu pointed out "If you know
yourself but do not know your enemy, you will sometimes meet with victory,
sometimes with defeat. If you know your enemy but do not know yourself, you
will sometimes meet with victory, sometimes with defeat. But if you know
yourself and you know your enemy, you will be victorious on a hundred
occasions." As a someone sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution
against all enemies, foreign and domestic, I think it would be appropriate
if I "knew" my enemy. Since you seem so opposed to the pluralism of our
present form of government, that enemy sounds like you.
--
Frank Reid
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