OT In Defense of Tofu

Bob Patton wrote:




Sure - but just imagine the esthetic appeal of an olive power bar. Dark
brown bar with flecks of darker brown or black; maybe even a few red pieces
of pimento if you get the enhanced version. Stays hard until you warm it up
by holding in your armpit. Delectable!!
Bob



hmmm... just what did wolfgang do to you in that tent? g

Ken Fortenberry wrote in
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http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...lFiveStar.html

Cool!

I've eaten at about a half dozen of dem places, at first glance. My
favorite experience, by far, was at Diaghilev in West Hollywood. I had
some sort of nasty-ass flu at the time, but still had a great time.

You walk in as a harpist plays some light airs. They seat you, and you
start your pre-meal conversations. All of a sudden, a fleet of servers
appears behind you, out of absolutely nowhere, and they just stand there
waiting for a slight pause in your conversation so they can introduce you
to the four or five predinner flavored vodkas, chilled to syrupy viscosity.
Having served your vodkas, they bring out the caviar and toast points.
Then, the servers will walk around the table introducing you to the many
varieties of breads they will be serving, complimenting you on your
selection. The vodkas and bread keep coming every few minutes.

Soon after the breads are introduced, they bring out the menus. You've
probably been in the restaurant for about 35 minutes at this point.

Amazing experience. Highly recommended.

Scott

Ken Fortenberry wrote in
gy.com:

Charlie Wilson wrote:
...
I can think of four restaurants within 50 miles that deserve to be on
the list. IMNSFHO, omission from the Mobile list isn't a good reason
to lump an establishment with all the other greasy spoons.

I agree, any list of great US restuarants that doesn't include Chez
Panisse in Berkeley and Topolobampo in Chicago is not a complete list.
Omission from the list doesn't mean a restaurant is a greasy spoon,
but inclusion in that group of 180 does mean that the establishment is
well respected by people in the restaurant business.


Out of all the restaurants I've eaten in, the one that I tend to regularly
send people who are wandering about that part of the country to is Cliff
House in San Francisco. Food is nothing to write home about, but the
atmosphere, especially the view, is incomparable. A relaxing Sunday
Brunch, followed by a visit to the wonderful nickelodean museum a few steps
away, and then to the airport for a return trip home, is my standard.

Scott

"slenon" wrote in
. com:

Lennie Richardson:
I wonder if, given a chance, the Thais would forgo deep fried locusts
with garlic chili sauce for a daily Big Mac. I know the coronary
artery disease in their country would rise to match ours if they did.

I suspect that large percentage of them would if such fair was
locally available at an affordable price. On the other hand, I can
live without any McDonalds product but would miss Mee Krob and Pad
Thai, and Sing Ha if I lived someplace that did not have a source of
these comestibles.



My favorite bit of Jewish trivia is the observation that locusts are
kosher!!

I guess the reasoning is that if there are enough locusts around, there may
not be much else to eat.

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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Out of all the restaurants I've eaten in, the one that I tend
to regularly
send people who are wandering about that part of the country to
is Cliff
House in San Francisco. Food is nothing to write home about,
but the
atmosphere, especially the view, is incomparable. A relaxing
Sunday
Brunch, followed by a visit to the wonderful nickelodean museum
a few steps
away, and then to the airport for a return trip home, is my
standard.
Scott

I have eaten there a few times over the many years I have lived
in the Bay Area. It does have a nice view, I thought the waiters
were snooty and the food nothing to write home about. It is just
another expensive tourist trap.
Ernie

Scott Seidman wrote:

Out of all the restaurants I've eaten in, the one that I tend to regularly
send people who are wandering about that part of the country to is Cliff
House in San Francisco. ...

That's our first stop after we drive out of the airport parking lot.
Giant prawns, sourdough bread and a couple of Anchor Steams, a trip
through the Camera Obscura, then watch the sun set over the Pacific.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
nk.net...



We deep-fried two wild turkeys at work, the day before T-Day. The
turkeys
were skinless,

All you turkeys quacking about cooking---try the company in Tyler Texas that
smokes birds. It will arrive smoked [but not dry], with a skin and dead.
Probably cost the same as a raw turkey and three gallons of peanut oil. And
you don't have to go in the woods in a camouflaged suit, painted up face,
gloves on your hands, face mask, camouflaged gun and wearing a bright
orange vest.
In the old days the squaws use to do all the cooking but now the Cabela's
catalog has got you guys worried about the cost of a cajun marinade injector
kit. IJ

My favorite bit of Jewish trivia is the observation that locusts are
kosher!!
I guess the reasoning is that if there are enough locusts around, there may
not be much else to eat.
Scott

That may be as logical a reason as any I've heard. The most important part
of the feast is to discard the legs before eating the insect.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

"Ernie" wrote in news:AweKb.7007
:


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
Out of all the restaurants I've eaten in, the one that I tend
to regularly
send people who are wandering about that part of the country to
is Cliff
House in San Francisco. Food is nothing to write home about,
but the
atmosphere, especially the view, is incomparable. A relaxing
Sunday
Brunch, followed by a visit to the wonderful nickelodean museum
a few steps
away, and then to the airport for a return trip home, is my
standard.
Scott

I have eaten there a few times over the many years I have lived
in the Bay Area. It does have a nice view, I thought the waiters
were snooty and the food nothing to write home about. It is just
another expensive tourist trap.
Ernie



Definately for the tourists, but hell, that's me. FWIW, I grew up in New
York, and have never been to the Statue of Liberty, or the Empire State
Building observation desk. I wish I took a few hours to play tourist in my
own city.

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"slenon" wrote in
. com:

Lennie Richardson:
I wonder if, given a chance, the Thais would forgo deep fried
locusts
with garlic chili sauce for a daily Big Mac. I know the coronary
artery disease in their country would rise to match ours if they
did.

I suspect that large percentage of them would if such fair was
locally available at an affordable price. On the other hand, I
can
live without any McDonalds product but would miss Mee Krob and
Pad
Thai, and Sing Ha if I lived someplace that did not have a source
of
these comestibles.



My favorite bit of Jewish trivia is the observation that locusts are
kosher!!

I guess the reasoning is that if there are enough locusts around,
there may
not be much else to eat.

Brings to mind John the baptist living on locusts and honey. I read
somewhere, a long long time ago, that what he was actually eating was
the fruit of a variety of locust tree and that the grasshopper thingy
was a result of a rather obvious lexical mix-up. For many years I
thought this made perfect sense, an opinion bolstered by the fact that
carob also goes by the name's "St. John's Bread" and "locust bean",
and that related species of leguminous trees are common in many desert
regions. On the other hand, as you point out, the insect is kosher
and locusts would be handy little packages of protein in an area which
they have recently denuded. However, it eventually occurred to me
that the conflation of locust, the insect, with locust, the tree, only
works in English.....unless the Greek, Latin, Aramaic (or whatever
other language the original references from the New Testament were
written in) cognates happened, by an exceedingly implausible
coincidence, to have precisely the same built in ambiguity. And
so.....

Matthew 3:4

King James: And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a
leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild
honey.

Latin Vulgate: ipse autem Iohannes habebat vestimentum de pilis
camelorum et zonam pelliciam circa lumbos suos esca autem eius erat
lucustae et mel silvestre

And.....

Exodus 10:4

King James: Else, if thou refuse to let my people go, behold, to
morrow will I bring the locusts into thy coast:

Latin Vulgate: sin autem resistis et non vis dimittere eum ecce ego
inducam cras lucustam in fines tuos

Clearly, the older Vulgate agrees with KJ that John was eating bugs.

John Gill says:

"...by the "locusts" some have thought are meant a sort of fish called
"crabs", which John found upon the banks of Jordan, and lived upon;
others, that a sort of wild fruit, or the tops of trees and plants he
found in the wilderness and fed on, are designed; but the truth is,
these were a sort of creatures "called locusts", and which by the
ceremonial law were lawful to be eaten, see Lev_11:22. The Misnic
doctors describe such as are fit to be eaten after this manner;

"all that have four feet and four wings, and whose thighs and wings
cover the greatest part of their body, and whose name is ??? "a
locust."''

For it seems they must not only have these marks and signs, but must
be so called, or by a word in any other language which answers to it,
as the commentators on this passage observe; and very frequently do
these writers speak of locusts that are clean, and may be eaten.
Maimonides reckons up "eight" sorts of them, which might be eaten
according to the law. Besides, these were eaten by people of other
nations, particularly the Ethiopians, Parthians, and Lybians. "

Albert Barnes agrees, without making any mention of the vegetative
"locust", and amplifies considerably on who ate them, methods of
preparation, etc. Unfortunately, neither provides any clues as to the
origin of the alternative interpretation.

Wolfgang
and (OBROFF) trout prefer the bugs, too.