benefits of antron?

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
I've found that Antron posts get waterlogged and then the fly will not
ride correctly so I've stopped using it for that purpose. The best
post will be made out of a hydrophobic material that's lighter than
water.

Stan, does polypropylene absorb and hold water? I've never tried it
for a post.

Peter

Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me on
to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found it's
not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease it
up.

The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell
foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is really
easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...

Stan Gula wrote:

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
I've found that Antron posts get waterlogged and then the fly will not
ride correctly so I've stopped using it for that purpose. The best
post will be made out of a hydrophobic material that's lighter than
water.

Stan, does polypropylene absorb and hold water? I've never tried it
for a post.

Peter

Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me on
to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found it's
not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease it
up.

The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell
foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is really
easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...

The #14,50x long parachute adams (nose to tail) cluster with various posts ?

This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...

The #14,50x long parachute adams (nose to tail) cluster with various posts
?


I can only fine 20x long hooks. Do you have a source? g

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
"Peter Charles" wrote in message
Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me
on
to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found
it's
not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease
it
up.

The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell
foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is
really
easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...


Polypro, closed cell foam.....sheesh don't you guys ever tie a parachute fly
the way God intended, good old fashioned animal hair?

Wayne Knight wrote:

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
"Peter Charles" wrote in message
Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me
on
to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found
it's
not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease
it
up.

The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell
foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is
really
easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...


Polypro, closed cell foam.....sheesh don't you guys ever tie a parachute fly
the way God intended, good old fashioned animal hair?

Calfs tail works pretty well, but I guess people are getting to lay to stack
hairs. I use most
methods mentioned but most of the time its either polypro or t-base depending
on size and
how slim I want the body.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:55:23 -0800, Svend Tang-Petersen
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
"Peter Charles" wrote in message
Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me
on
to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found
it's
not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease
it
up.

The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell
foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is
really
easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...


Polypro, closed cell foam.....sheesh don't you guys ever tie a parachute fly
the way God intended, good old fashioned animal hair?

Calfs tail works pretty well, but I guess people are getting to lay to stack
hairs. I use most
methods mentioned but most of the time its either polypro or t-base depending
on size and
how slim I want the body.


I used to use calftail on some of my earliest parachute ties but I
went away from it as I thought it too heavy for posts -- that and the
bulk. Did you find that your calftail equipped flies rode OK? Also,
did you stack and tie in, leaving the post untrimmed, or trim it off
square?

Peter

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"Peter Charles" wrote in message
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I used to use calftail on some of my earliest parachute ties but I
went away from it as I thought it too heavy for posts -- that and the
bulk. Did you find that your calftail equipped flies rode OK? Also,
did you stack and tie in, leaving the post untrimmed, or trim it off
square?


Rode fine, clip it off square

I stack the hair first, but it takes longer than deer hair since its lighter and less
straight. I rarely trimm
the post, except for lifting the excess at a 45 degree angle and the cutting parallel
with the shank. That
leaves a the excess on the shank tapered. Sometimes (especially if its a biot body) Ill
add some dugging
to smoothen out the body taper.

But as someone mentioned if I want a really thin body I dont use hair.

And I havent noticed any significant differences in flotation etc.

Peter Charles wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:55:23 -0800, Svend Tang-Petersen
wrote:

Wayne Knight wrote:

"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
"Peter Charles" wrote in message
Polypro doesn't absorb water (in my experience). A friend has turned me
on
to turkey flats for posts and while those do suck up water, I've found
it's
not a problem if you give the post a good shot of head cement and grease
it
up.

The best in terms of floatation might be a thin strip of 2mm closed cell
foam. I've experimented with two strips (orange and white) which is
really
easy to see. This gives me a good idea for a swap fly...


Polypro, closed cell foam.....sheesh don't you guys ever tie a parachute fly
the way God intended, good old fashioned animal hair?

Calfs tail works pretty well, but I guess people are getting to lay to stack
hairs. I use most
methods mentioned but most of the time its either polypro or t-base depending
on size and
how slim I want the body.

I used to use calftail on some of my earliest parachute ties but I
went away from it as I thought it too heavy for posts -- that and the
bulk. Did you find that your calftail equipped flies rode OK? Also,
did you stack and tie in, leaving the post untrimmed, or trim it off
square?

Peter

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Svend Tang-Petersen wrote in message ...

Calfs tail works pretty well, but I guess people are getting to lay to stack
hairs. I use most
methods mentioned but most of the time its either polypro or t-base depending
on size and
how slim I want the body.

FWIW, I started tying parachutes with calf-tail, but found it tough
to keep the bodies thin enough. Then I picked up a little trick y'all
might all know about, but here goes: I take a bunch of polypro that's
half as thick as the post I want. I tie it on from the top, but let
the tying thread rotate it under the hook. A couple of figure-eight
wraps so it's perpendicular to the shank and then I pull the two ends
up and wrap them together to make the post.

This gives me a little bulge on the bottom right at the tie-in
point/thorax, but I don't have any extra bulk going back towards the
bend. I usually add a couple of drops of head-cement at the bottom of
the post to help make sure it can't rotate around the hook.


Chuck Vance

"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message
FWIW, I started tying parachutes with calf-tail, but found it tough
to keep the bodies thin enough. Then I picked up a little trick y'all
might all know about, but here goes: I take a bunch of polypro that's
half as thick as the post I want. I tie it on from the top, but let
the tying thread rotate it under the hook. A couple of figure-eight
wraps so it's perpendicular to the shank and then I pull the two ends
up and wrap them together to make the post.

I've never tied parachutes, so I'm not asking from experience; but why can't
you do the same figure eight thing on top of the hook without wrapping it
under?

Joe F.