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January 15th, 2004, 12:35 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"MLL" wrote in message ... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang 
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January 15th, 2004, 12:46 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
Same goes for all those that engage in civil and not-so-civil
disobedience. Anarchists and ecotagers come to mind. Peace On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:35:31 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote: "MLL" wrote in message m... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang
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January 15th, 2004, 01:19 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"Hayduke" wrote in message ... Same goes for all those that engage in civil and not-so-civil disobedience. Anarchists and ecotagers come to mind. Hm...... Ya know, from what I've seen thus far, it appears that you and I share certain attitudes about some issues, but I got this thing about monikers.......you didn't actually happen to know Abbey personally, did you? Wolfgang association can be a powerful thing.......and power, as has been noted, is easily abused.
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January 15th, 2004, 01:32 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
Spent a hell of alot of time in S. Utah, rubbing shoulders in my
youth. Gotta protect your home, don't ya?  On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:19:26 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote: Hm...... Ya know, from what I've seen thus far, it appears that you and I share certain attitudes about some issues, but I got this thing about monikers.......you didn't actually happen to know Abbey personally, did you? Wolfgang association can be a powerful thing.......and power, as has been noted, is easily abused.
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January 15th, 2004, 01:48 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"Hayduke" wrote in message ... Spent a hell of alot of time in S. Utah, rubbing shoulders in my youth. Gotta protect your home, don't ya? Hm......yeah, that'll do. Wolfgang who has long had a hankering to see the slickrock country......solitaire or otherwise.
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January 15th, 2004, 01:38 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
... "MLL" wrote in message ... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang You forgot Pete Rose.
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January 15th, 2004, 01:52 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"Stan Gula" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "MLL" wrote in message ... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang You forgot Pete Rose. See, that's the trouble with consulting primary sources.......who the hell can read all them funky signatures?  Wolfgang who, truth be told, has ample reason to be happy that he learned to type.
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January 16th, 2004, 01:50 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "MLL" wrote in message ... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang OHV maniacs have absolutely nothing in common with that list! How arrogantly stupid of you to attempt such a comparison.
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January 16th, 2004, 04:05 PM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"MLL" wrote in message m... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "MLL" wrote in message ... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang OHV maniacs have absolutely nothing in common with that list! As I have no idea what an "OHV maniac" is, I am content to take your word on this matter. How arrogantly stupid of you to attempt such a comparison. Well, arrogance and stupidity are where you find them, I guess. It appears that you think I am guilty of comparing "OHV maniacs" to a list. Theoretically it is possible that I did actually do that at one time or another but, if so, I have no recollection of it. In the instant case, there is no evidence that I have engaged in any such practice. Moreover, given that I know what a list is and I don't know what an "OHV maniac" is, I can't think of any reason that I would be tempted to compare them nor, for that matter, what purpose such a comparison might serve even if it were demonstrated that the exercise made any kind of sense. Anyway, it occurs to me that you might be interested in what I DID do. What I did was to post the names of several people who defied "existing laws and regulations" in response to what appeared to be a snide and remarkably stupid commentary on what its author apparently believes to be a mutual exclusivity between freedom and morality. If you look at the names on that list closely and find someone willing to explain to you who those people are and what they did, you may be surprised to learn that every one of them had a problem with existing laws and regulations precisely because those laws and regulations interfered with certain freedoms that they held dear. When you finish school and grow up you may also find that many millions of people all over the world are actually willing to concede that they had a valid point. This explains, in large part, why all of the names on that list are very familiar to a substantial fraction of the human beings on this planet. Wolfgang
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January 18th, 2004, 01:52 AM
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Feds ponder how to curb rogue OHVs
"Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "MLL" wrote in message m... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "MLL" wrote in message ... Isn't it interesting how many of those who cry "freedom" can't abide by existing laws and regulations. Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Paul Revere, Mohandas Ghandi, Rosa Parks, M.L. King Jr., and a few others come readily to mind. Wolfgang OHV maniacs have absolutely nothing in common with that list! As I have no idea what an "OHV maniac" is, I am content to take your word on this matter. How arrogantly stupid of you to attempt such a comparison. Well, arrogance and stupidity are where you find them, I guess. It appears that you think I am guilty of comparing "OHV maniacs" to a list. Theoretically it is possible that I did actually do that at one time or another but, if so, I have no recollection of it. In the instant case, there is no evidence that I have engaged in any such practice. Moreover, given that I know what a list is and I don't know what an "OHV maniac" is, I can't think of any reason that I would be tempted to compare them nor, for that matter, what purpose such a comparison might serve even if it were demonstrated that the exercise made any kind of sense. Anyway, it occurs to me that you might be interested in what I DID do. What I did was to post the names of several people who defied "existing laws and regulations" in response to what appeared to be a snide and remarkably stupid commentary on what its author apparently believes to be a mutual exclusivity between freedom and morality. If you look at the names on that list closely and find someone willing to explain to you who those people are and what they did, you may be surprised to learn that every one of them had a problem with existing laws and regulations precisely because those laws and regulations interfered with certain freedoms that they held dear. When you finish school and grow up you may also find that many millions of people all over the world are actually willing to concede that they had a valid point. This explains, in large part, why all of the names on that list are very familiar to a substantial fraction of the human beings on this planet. Wolfgang What a phony. Ever heard of a non-sequitur? Learn to follow the conversation.
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