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Old January 26th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Snoop
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Willi wrote:

I bought a large bag (probably enough to fill 100s of containers) for
$20 at a local fly shop. They told me it was toner. Snoop however, says
that it is an agent they use in fiberglass construction. He used to
build custom airplanes and had used it in the past. Hopefully he'll
comment on this. It is definitely NOT silica gel


Willi,

I'm pretty sure the Frog's Fanny is Cab-O-Sil. It looks like and behaves
like it anyway. We used it to keep resin from flowing on vertical surfaces.
Someone who's experienced with how Frog's Fanny works should order some and
compare. It's really cheap. I'm sorry that I threw the bag (1 gallon) away
when I swore off fiberglassing.
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty in CA sells it. My old catalog has a part no. of
01-14711 at a price of $2.85 for a gallon bag. This catalog is 1995 so don't
know what the price might be now. The phone number for ACS is 800-824-1930.
Freight is probably more than the goods. Another possible source would be West
Marine. You'll have to figure out what to use for a bottle and brush.

Snoop



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Old January 26th, 2004, 11:42 PM
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"Mike Connor" wrote

Preen gland oil from ducks ( although it has never been quite clear to me
how this is obtained) is an excellent floatant. ( Perhaps there are whole
tribes of "duck-milkers" wandering around? ).



well crap, here comes another another sleepless night, trying to visualize
duck milking on a large scale


Hehe, I HAVE picked my own CDC off of wild birds, but I draw the line at
duck butt milking


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Old January 26th, 2004, 11:44 PM
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:36:27 -0700, Snoop wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Frog's Fanny is Cab-O-Sil. It looks like and behaves
like it anyway.


That's the stuff I was trying to think of. I worked in a fiberglass
plant years ago and we used it there.
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Old January 26th, 2004, 11:48 PM
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Larry L wrote:

Frog's Fanny is, imho, a great boon to the flat water fly fisher ( not so
flat, too ), but it is pricey.

I oscillate between wanting to support whoever is packaging it, because they
have improved my fishing and deserve support .... and wanting to find the
same stuff cheaper


Kinda like Gink vs. Albolene. :-)

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Old January 27th, 2004, 12:08 AM
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Snoop wrote in :

Willi wrote:

I bought a large bag (probably enough to fill 100s of containers) for
$20 at a local fly shop. They told me it was toner. Snoop however,
says that it is an agent they use in fiberglass construction. He used
to build custom airplanes and had used it in the past. Hopefully
he'll comment on this. It is definitely NOT silica gel


Willi,

I'm pretty sure the Frog's Fanny is Cab-O-Sil. It looks like and
behaves
like it anyway. We used it to keep resin from flowing on vertical
surfaces. Someone who's experienced with how Frog's Fanny works should
order some and compare. It's really cheap. I'm sorry that I threw
the bag (1 gallon) away when I swore off fiberglassing.
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty in CA sells it. My old catalog has a
part no. of
01-14711 at a price of $2.85 for a gallon bag. This catalog is 1995
so don't know what the price might be now. The phone number for ACS
is 800-824-1930. Freight is probably more than the goods. Another
possible source would be West Marine. You'll have to figure out what
to use for a bottle and brush.

Snoop



Some Synonyms:

Aquafil; CAB-O-SIL; Fossil flour; Aerosil, CAB-O-GRIP II; Colloidal
silica

From:

http://www.nohsc.gov.au/OHSInformati...andards/az/Fum
ed_silica.htm

The different forms of silica are intereting to ... the colloidal one for
instance "... the silica particles must be small enough such that they
are largely unaffected by gravity." - sound familiar?

:-)

Steve




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Old January 27th, 2004, 12:17 AM
rw
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Snoop wrote:

Willi wrote:

I bought a large bag (probably enough to fill 100s of containers) for
$20 at a local fly shop. They told me it was toner. Snoop however,
says that it is an agent they use in fiberglass construction. He used
to build custom airplanes and had used it in the past. Hopefully he'll
comment on this. It is definitely NOT silica gel



Willi,

I'm pretty sure the Frog's Fanny is Cab-O-Sil. It looks like and
behaves like it anyway. We used it to keep resin from flowing on
vertical surfaces. Someone who's experienced with how Frog's Fanny works
should order some and compare. It's really cheap. I'm sorry that I
threw the bag (1 gallon) away when I swore off fiberglassing.
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty in CA sells it. My old catalog has a part
no. of 01-14711 at a price of $2.85 for a gallon bag. This catalog is
1995 so don't know what the price might be now. The phone number for
ACS is 800-824-1930. Freight is probably more than the goods. Another
possible source would be West Marine. You'll have to figure out what to
use for a bottle and brush.


Maybe you could refill a Frog's Fanny bottle. :-)

http://www.eagerplastics.com/cab.htm

http://w1.cabot-corp.com/controller....&entry=product

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...es/cabosil.php

A gallon bag of Cabosil costs $6.75 at AircraftSpruce.com. Cabela's
sells Frog's Fanny for $5 for what I'd guess is a 0.5 fluid ounce
bottle. That works out to $1280/gallon, or an 18,962% markup (if, in
fact, they're the same thing, and you ignore all those little bottles
and brushes and labels).

I like Frog's Fanny, but go through it very fast -- much faster than
other dessicants. I could easily use half a dozen bottles in a season.

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Old January 27th, 2004, 12:47 AM
Larry L
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"rw" wrote

I like Frog's Fanny, but go through it very fast -- much faster than
other dessicants. I could easily use half a dozen bottles in a season.


I go through it fast too, lots just blows away it seems .... and fish on a
budget ... I bet I need my money more than Mr Cabela G


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Old January 27th, 2004, 01:01 AM
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"Larry L" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

You might like to try this;
http://www.no-odor.com/moisteze/powder.htm

These dessicant powders are usually a combination of silica gel, and silica
powder. There are a lot of them on the market. They all work for drying
flies. The types with silica powder are somewhat better, as the powder also
acts as a floatant.

I use ground ( coffee grinder) silica gel to dry flies, and then a floatant
to waterproof them again. Works great, and the silica gel costs nothing. I
have about 40 pounds of it, collected from electronics packaging.

TL
MC


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Old January 27th, 2004, 01:25 AM
rw
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Larry L wrote:
"rw" wrote


I like Frog's Fanny, but go through it very fast -- much faster than
other dessicants. I could easily use half a dozen bottles in a season.



I go through it fast too, lots just blows away it seems .... and fish on a
budget ... I bet I need my money more than Mr Cabela G


Well, like you said, whoever discovered that this stuff works deserves
credit, and I expect that they're reaping some financial rewards. Sound
familiar? :-) I very much doubt, now that the cat is out of the bag on
ROFF, that they're going to see any serious erosion in their profits. If
a competitor were to repackage caposil at a lower price and an equally
clever name, however ...

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Old January 27th, 2004, 01:40 AM
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If you know any diabetics that use certains types of trst strips, it
comes in the caps of the strips which are typically discarded. I saved
it up for 2 years while using those strips, and now am on a new meter
whose strips don't use it.

Larry n(one of the other ones)

Larry L wrote:

Frog's Fanny is, imho, a great boon to the flat water fly fisher ( not so
flat, too ), but it is pricey.

I oscillate between wanting to support whoever is packaging it, because they
have improved my fishing and deserve support .... and wanting to find the
same stuff cheaper

I vaguely remember ( about the only type of remember I experience at my
age ) seeing something, somewhere, about the same material packaged for a
different market .... I'm not the least sure it was on ROFF, but if you know
of a different way to obtain this cool stuff ...let me know, please .....
and thank you, in advance



 




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