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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

If you're suggesting that the Shrublet be impeached, well I'm all
for it. Sending 547 (and counting) American soldiers to their deaths
under, at best, a trumped up pretense and at worst because of outright
lies, fits my definition of high crimes and misdemeanors a lot better
than lying about a blow job.

We didn't impeach Kennedy or Johnson, did we? Why the hell would we impeach
Bush, then?

Snoop




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rw wrote:

First of all, Clinton is no longer the President, so can we please stop
talking about him?

No, that would be too easy on you.

Bush's probable opponent volunteered for extremely dangerous duty in
Viet Nam and came home with the Silver Star, Bronze Star with V, three
awards of the Purple Heart, Combat Action Ribbon, Navy Presidential Unit
Citation, Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal,
Vietnam Service Medal, and the Vietnam Campaign Medal.

I think anyone who served in Viet Nam deserves respect. Most didn't come
home with a chest full of metals but it doesn't mean they didn't deserve them.
And, just because someone is a Viet Nam vet doesn't automatically mean they are
best qualified to be president.

If Bush hadn't played dress-up on that aircraft carrier, and if he and
his surrogates didn't question the patriotism of people like John
McCain, Max Cleland, and John Kerry, I'd give him a pass on his military
record.

I didn't realize this was going on but then I don't read Pravda.

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Snoop wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

If you're suggesting that the Shrublet be impeached, well I'm all
for it. Sending 547 (and counting) American soldiers to their deaths
under, at best, a trumped up pretense and at worst because of outright
lies, fits my definition of high crimes and misdemeanors a lot better
than lying about a blow job.


We didn't impeach Kennedy or Johnson, did we?

No, but Tricky Dick slunk off into the night before we had the chance.

Why the hell would we
impeach Bush, then?

High crimes, misdemeanors, governing while under the influence of
the corrupt military-industrial complex and impersonating a chimp.

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Ken Fortenberry

Snoop wrote:
rw wrote:

If Bush hadn't played dress-up on that aircraft carrier, and if he and
his surrogates didn't question the patriotism of people like John
McCain, Max Cleland, and John Kerry, I'd give him a pass on his
military record.


I didn't realize this was going on but then I don't read Pravda.

You didn't see Bush dressed up in a perfectly tailored flight suit on
the aircraft carrier, under the banner "Mission Accomplished"? How many
body-bags ago was that? What do you read? The Drudge Report?

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Extremely dangerous duty my ass. His wounds were scratches fixed with band
aids, and many of my veteran friends who where over there in the deep **** are
questioning how he got his SS and his PH. His wounds were remf wounds, the
kind that most would not have even reported, much less ask for a PH.

I can't help wondering, Dave, what your take would be if Bush had been
awarded the Silver Star and Kerry had been AWOL from his National Guard
service.

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"Dave LaCourse" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Bush is nowhere near perfect, by a long shot, but he is the best out there
to
prosecute the war on terror.

SNIP


There is no war on terror. One can not war with terror. One needs to find
the terrorists and dispose of them, or otherwise render them harmless,
preferably by lawful means.

Your "terror war prosecutor", has not yet produced a single terrorist, or
any illegal weapons of mass destruction, or a host of other things. All he
has to show for his efforts are the incredibly sad and extremely costly and
of course ongoing results of the illegal invasion of a sovereign country.

Other countries wont simply sit still for everything you know. Where is
your "terror warrior" going to strike next? To what end? To direct
attention away from his blatant and massive incompetence?

Patriotism etc etc quite apart. Common sense shouild at least prevent some
of this nonsense. When it does not, then there is only one possible
conclusion, those involved simply do not possess any.

TL
MC

rw writes:

I can't help wondering, Dave, what your take would be if Bush had been
awarded the Silver Star and Kerry had been AWOL from his National Guard
service.

You still use a term that is incorrect. Please try to follow this
carefully....I'll type slowly..... you can not be AWOL from a National Guard
unit. You can only be AWOL from ACTIVE DUTY, and he did not desert either.
He has his points and his discharge. Why do you continue to propagate this lie
started by Terry McAuliffe?

Well, you can keep on wondering. Since it didn't happen that way, who shives a
git. You do NOT get Silver Stars for what Kerry did. Ask any vet who saw
worse duty than Kerry faced. Ask any Marine at Khe Sahn, any helicoptor
pilots/gunners especially the Dust Off guys, grunts in the Highlands, or anyone
that survived Tet how difficult it is to win a Silver Star. Bronze Stars were
given out to just about every officer. We enlisted referred to it as the
"Officer's Good Conduct Medal". And also ask them about walking wounded and
Purple Hearts.


Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

"Snoop" wrote in message
All of the sudden, military service and sleeze are an issue? Oh, I
see, it
only matters when Republicans are involved.

All of a sudden? All of a sudden? You gotta be kidding. The Reps. were
blaring that trumpet before Clinton was even inaugurated. So now the shoe's
on the other foot and the Reps. are crying foul? Clinton's student
deferrment was perfectly legitimate but was practically a conservative
"draft dodging" mantra throughout his term in office. But now we're
supposed to overlook Bush's just as legal (but far more odious) draft
dodging through political connections? At least Clinton showed up for
class.

Joe F.


p.s. Apologies for the subject line change. Apparently I can't use the $
sign in my messages.

"Snoop" wrote in message
Let's agree that both Clinton and Bush are draft dodgers, OK?

Actually, I'd argue against the equivalence. As one who was of college (and
draft) age at the time, I know that it was common to seek and obtain a 1-S
deferment to allow one to *defer* eligibility for the draft until completing
one's studies. It was routine, and there was nothing unethical or sleezy
about it. IMHO, that's a stark contrast to cowardly using daddy's
connections to jump to the head of the line for entry into the NG to avoid
more hazardous service.

Joe F.

mc writes:

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