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  #91  
Old February 25th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Ken Fortenberry
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Wayne Knight wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

I didn't run anywhere. If my number had come up I would have
done my jail time like a true patriot.



Oh cut the bull****, by the time you hit the draft age, we were essentially
out of nam and the draft was on its way out. You're two years older than me
and there was no draft to register for in 1976.


I had to register, was classified 1H until the lottery drawing.
We listened on the radio as Henry Kissinger pulled numbers out
of two jars, the first your birthdate, the second your draft
number. The draft number for November 25 was 123. Everybody at
90 or lower was immediately reclassified from 1H to 1A and thus
eligible for the draft (but you're right, they didn't actually
end up drafting anyone, but we did not know that at the time).
Over 90, like me and you were scot-free. It's easy for you to
call our fears bull**** now, but thirty years ago student
deferments had been abolished, the draft was still very real,
and you had to give a lot of thought to draft, Canada or jail.

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Ken Fortenberry

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Old February 25th, 2004, 12:34 AM
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
snippered.... but after that, it sort of gets fuzzy.
Dave


many a good pirate has succumbed to the rum......

wally .... smileys

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Old February 25th, 2004, 12:52 AM
Wayne Knight
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
It's easy for you to
call our fears bull**** now, but thirty years ago student
deferments had been abolished, the draft was still very real,
and you had to give a lot of thought to draft, Canada or jail.


Oh i had real fears but my liberalness, unlike yours, was acquired. I'll
even admit to voting for Ford during my first eligible election. I grew up
in a Military family living on base housing, my thoughts then was that the
Vietnam action was a just one. Having the benefits of being older, wiser,
and more learned, I believe that now to have been the wrong opinion but
there are too many names inscribed on a granite wall in DC who did not have
the luck you and I did, nor the chance to hammer out a debate 30 years later
over our PC's in our cozy home. And much to Davie's probable chagrin, it was
the active duty folks I hung around with my Dad who actually got me to
question the need to be involved in that little "war".

Regardless, I was pegged for an Annapolis appointment so the draft was not
something I was going to have to deal with. In hindsight, much to the Navy's
and the country's relief, my eyes were too bad for military service. So
****, I couldn't even run, they wouldn't have taken me.


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Old February 25th, 2004, 01:37 AM
Jeff Miller
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"blow job bill and his wife"...damn i love that. ... pure whitman
poetry. i wish i could vote for him again. ...sigh...

jeff

rw wrote:

Snoop wrote:


All of the sudden, military service and sleeze are an issue? Oh, I
see, it only matters when Republicans are involved. When we're
talking about blow job Bill and his wife, the world's most succesfull
commodity trader, it's a different story.



Uh, Bob, are you saying that no one talked about Clinton's "sleaze"?

Maybe you forgot about Ken Starr, the special prosecutor, and all the
money he spent investigating the Clintons, and the (unsuccessful)
impeachment.


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Old February 25th, 2004, 01:47 AM
Jeff Miller
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Snoop wrote:



If Bush hadn't played dress-up on that aircraft carrier, and if he and
his surrogates didn't question the patriotism of people like John
McCain, Max Cleland, and John Kerry, I'd give him a pass on his
military record.



I didn't realize this was going on but then I don't read Pravda.


certainly you've heard the comments of bush's sycophant and groupie, ann
coulter, about max cleland? hardly pravda... not nearly as honest or
reliable.

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Old February 25th, 2004, 02:06 AM
Tom Littleton
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Vince notes:
When ALL taxes are considered, the poor pay a higher percentage of
their income than the rich do. In other words, we have a regressive
tax system in the United States.


thank you, Vince....otherwise it would just seem like old Tom and his odd ideas
again. I have been touting this point for years and it is amazing how few
working people get it.
Tom
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Old February 25th, 2004, 02:12 AM
Jeff Miller
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Snoop wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:


We didn't impeach Kennedy or Johnson, did we? Why the hell would we
impeach Bush, then?


because we're intelligent enough to learn and figure some stuff out?
....and because the feller deserves it?

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Old February 25th, 2004, 03:46 AM
Wayne Harrison
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"Tom Littleton" wrote

thank you, Vince....otherwise it would just seem like old Tom and his odd

ideas
again. I have been touting this point for years and it is amazing how few
working people get it.
Tom


well, obviously, as shown by the brilliance of posts by working people
like lat757 or whateverthe****, working people are far more concerned with
directing their energies to far more important things like a couple thousand
gay people getting "married", or whatever the **** they want to do.

yfitons
wayno (do you begin to understand why i refuse to engage in threads dealing
with politics and religion?)


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Old February 25th, 2004, 04:25 AM
daytripper
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 03:46:44 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"Tom Littleton" wrote

thank you, Vince....otherwise it would just seem like old Tom and his odd

ideas
again. I have been touting this point for years and it is amazing how few
working people get it.
Tom


well, obviously, as shown by the brilliance of posts by working people
like lat757 or whateverthe****, working people are far more concerned with
directing their energies to far more important things like a couple thousand
gay people getting "married", or whatever the **** they want to do.

yfitons
wayno (do you begin to understand why i refuse to engage in threads dealing
with politics and religion?)


I think that ship already set sail...

/daytripper (But - do go on! You haven't said anything *I* disagree with ;-)
 




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