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Old February 25th, 2004, 03:32 PM
slenon
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The nukes were actually pretty comfortable - I wouldn't call them sewer
pipes. Of course, it's all relative. At least we weren't getting shot at. I
used to worry a little about certain navies, but at least didn't worry

about
being wounded and mutilated. Nothing can compare to what guys like you went
through.


If I'd known I was a hero I'd have enjoyed it more. It was just
interesting - especially to somebody like me who's always had in interest

in
history.
Bob




I'm not claustrophobic. But I served with people who started getting freaky
in a fighting hole and could never have gone down into a tunnel or bunker.
So while I might have tolerated the close quarters, the thoughts of battery
explosions, piping failures, hot-run torpedoes, and other such things does
make what you did more challenging. Then there is the concept of rapid
reactor dissassembly that isn't supposed to exist. As you say, it's all
relative. Mr. Epps making night traps in bad weather in a plane with no
wipers likely experienced just as much stress as I did when being shot at by
someone with bad marksmanship skills. In some manner, all of us who served
in the Cold War placed our lives on the line. Even training in the military
is often deadly. Sure there were REMF jobs but in the end all Army and
Marine folks have the same basic rifleman MOS and all Navy and AF types run
the risk of their transportation systems killing them.

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Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

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Old February 25th, 2004, 11:26 PM
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In article , Bob Patton wrote:

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Sorry airborne ESM/ECM type. Lotta respect for the folks below though.
I toured the Dallas (a 688 boat) and while it would be roomy compared
to what you all served on it was a bit tiny by my standards. Also
toured the Georgia (the Trident boat) and have to say the crew had more
room that we did on a Nimitz class carrier, although no windows

Allen
Prowler traps on Kennedy, Indy, Nimitz, Lincoln, TR, Stennis, Kitty
Hawk, America, Saratoga, Truman, Connie and Ike.


After I'd spent a year in Taiwan and was up for rotation they asked me if I
wanted to fly. Told them I thought it was way the hell too risky. They
offered to send me to SERE school in the PI if I'd fly, but I went to New
London instead. Couldn't see much point in getting involved in something
where they needed to teach me survival, evasion, resistance, and escape
techniques.

Bob
But the contingency orders (as I remember, I had to sign them) before our
trips turned out to be even more, er, "interesting."

Come to think of it, SERE might be a good course for a graduate business
curriculum.


SERE is one of those things you look back on that was painful but built
character. Pretty much enough character for the rest of my life I
figure. Did my week up in Warner Springs above San Diego in Dec and had
water freeze in my canteen. All of us aviators were pretty miserable,
all the SEALS thought it was a vacation since SERE was the last phase
of training before they went to their teams. A very serious and tough
group of guys who were not at all like the movies I'd be awful happy to
see them if I were ever hiding in hole behind someone's lines.

Allen
 




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