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rw wrote:
Canadians have a tendency to blame all their problems on the US. This is
the first time, however, I've heard a Canadian blaming the looming
failure of their health care system on the US.

Quite the opposite. It is usually the US who blames their problems on
Canada. Canada was blamed for the attack against the WTC (the
accusations were made that the terrorists enetered the US from Canada,
whic was ludricous); the US blamed Canada for the power outage last
summer (it started in Ohio). The US has a rather large trade deficit
with Canada; Canada sends a lot more goods to the US than the US does to
Canada. As a result, the US usually drums up some bogus reason for
imposing imposing tarriffs on goods imported from Canada because you
cannot compete otherwise (softwood lumber, durum wheat....). The WTO
has ruled against the US 10 of the last 14 times the US has placed
tariffs on imports from Canada.

As far as our health care system....most Canadians are still satisifed
with it, and the only reason it is peril is because of the efforts of
corporate medical care companies to convince us otherwise. I get
excellent care, so does my mother who is institutionalized because of
Alzheimer's, so does my wife and kids. I pay $600 a year for complete
health care coverage. When I lived in the US, it cost us over $3,000 for
our child to be born. The differnece in care....Canada's was better.

Tim Lysyk

Tim Lysyk wrote:

Quite the opposite. It is usually the US who blames their problems on
Canada.

Get serious. Most Americans don't even have a clear idea where Canada is.

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:03:11 -0700, rw
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Tim Lysyk wrote:

Quite the opposite. It is usually the US who blames their problems on
Canada.

Get serious. Most Americans don't even have a clear idea where Canada is.

He is serious - have you forgotten mad cow? And they don't have to
know where Canada is, they just have to believe the talking head on
CNN.


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Peter Charles wrote:

He is serious - have you forgotten mad cow?

Bad example, Peter.

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:38:40 -0700, rw
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Peter Charles wrote:

He is serious - have you forgotten mad cow?

Bad example, Peter.

Why? Explain

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Peter Charles wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:38:40 -0700, rw
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Peter Charles wrote:

He is serious - have you forgotten mad cow?

Bad example, Peter.


Why? Explain

It's my understanding that genetic tests and records revealed that the
BSE-infected cow that was found in the US came from Canada.

Is the Canadian media reporting something different? If so, I'd like to
hear about it. I'm serious. I know the Canadian government objected to
the initial report as "premature," but AFAIK they haven't been defending
that position.

When this news came out, there was no anti-Canada sentiment in the US
that I ever heard, and some of my friends are cattle ranchers. It was
just one of those things.

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:46:29 -0700, rw
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Peter Charles wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:38:40 -0700, rw
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Peter Charles wrote:

He is serious - have you forgotten mad cow?

Bad example, Peter.


Why? Explain

It's my understanding that genetic tests and records revealed that the
BSE-infected cow that was found in the US came from Canada.

Is the Canadian media reporting something different? If so, I'd like to
hear about it. I'm serious. I know the Canadian government objected to
the initial report as "premature," but AFAIK they haven't been defending
that position.

When this news came out, there was no anti-Canada sentiment in the US
that I ever heard, and some of my friends are cattle ranchers. It was
just one of those things.

No, the Canadian media did not report anything differently. However,
almost every CNN, NBC, etc. newscast on the subject went on and on
about this being a Canadian cow with the strong implication that the
US cattle industry was not to blame. You have probably heard that
Canada has had a recent case of mad cow disease that predates this
case and that the US closed its borders to Canadian beef as a result.
Did you also know that this cow origniated from a US herd? I suppose
CNN etc. left out that detail. Contrary to the CNN etc. coverage of
the US case, the Canadian media did not blame the US for our mad cow
case.



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"rw" wrote in message
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Tim Lysyk wrote:

Quite the opposite. It is usually the US who blames their problems on
Canada.

Get serious. Most Americans don't even have a clear idea where Canada is.

Funny how you can make a very important point and not have a clue what it
is.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
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Tim Lysyk wrote:

Quite the opposite. It is usually the US who blames their problems on
Canada.

Get serious. Most Americans don't even have a clear idea where Canada is.


Funny how you can make a very important point and not have a clue what it
is.

I intended it to be self-deprecating (being an American), but maybe you
didn't get that.

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"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
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Tim Lysyk wrote:

Quite the opposite. It is usually the US who blames their problems on
Canada.

Get serious. Most Americans don't even have a clear idea where Canada
is.


Funny how you can make a very important point and not have a clue what
it
is.

I intended it to be self-deprecating (being an American),

Well, of course you did.

but maybe you didn't get that.

Get serious.

Wolfgang