line choice for beginner

Hi All,

There is a dramatic difference between fly line finishes. I have sold them
all sense 1965 and have cast them all too.

There are tons of real old technology lines out there for the low price
point market that feel like sand paper when you cast them. We are always
looking for the best value for the dollar. Fly lines like the old SA
'Aircel' and Cortland '333' are 1950s technology. You have to get to a
certain level to get into the newer smoother finish lines that are not going
to negatively effect your casting.

We found that the Cortland '444' peach colored line (1964) has been the
turning point for many years. Another newer line that is great for beginners
in the SA/Master 'Head Start' (~year 2000) because it has the new 'AST'
finish. We are talking $40 and up to get something that is real smooth and
will cast very near like the best. The best lines in the world now are only
$60USD so I don't know why anyone would not get the best?

The best rods are $700 so that is understandable why most won't go there.

For many years the common advise to put the most money towards a good fly
line, secondly the rod and lastly the reel.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Your logic is good. The advantage of a weight foreward is that you can
cast
it further when you learn how to shoot line, and you can carry more
backing.
the latter is not a consideration if you have a larger reel to start with.
Eventually you may find some discomfort with the size of the reel, and you
may want to get one that would better balnace the reel as Sven suggested.
If you're just getting started, I would worry to much about that yet.
(unless money is no object)
Which band and which model? A good a starting line is the Sci. Angler
333
available (or was) at Walmart for less than $30 If money is no object,
most
of the lines are good. The only line I don't like is the clear Cortland
555..too much memory!
"Dan" wrote in message
...
I want to start fly fishing and have rod (5 wt) and reel (7wt). I will
buy
a
5 wt floating line since this has recommended for me, but am wondering
whether a weight forward or double taper would be appropriate. I see the
advantage of the DT is that you get twice the use because you can
reverse
it
eventually. I would also think that since my reel is a bit large for my
rod/line weight that a double taper might be appropriate. Do you guys
think
it would be a good idea or should I just get a weight forward line?
Also,
does it matter which exactly one I get? I have been told to get the best
or
close to it. Do you have any specific recommendations as to brand?

TIA

Dan




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Hi,
I would second Bill K's advice about the cost - you can buy an SA or
Cortland and have a good quality line for less than $50-$60.
I would say that the weight forward is MUCH easier to cast for a beginner,
as the Double Taper does not put as much weight up front, and you will
notice the difference in your casting, which at first will be 40 feet and
under- this will be much easier with a WF line. The advantage of a double
taper (reversing it) is really kind of silly - by the time the front wears
out, do you think the rest of the line is still unblemished? A damaged line
is a damaged line.
The real advantage to a DT is that because it has less weight up front you
can make more delicate (read - less splashy) casts when presenting dries at
a distance. You won't be doing that for the first year or two probably, so
go with the WF and have some fun!

Bill
http://www.tightlines.ca

"Bill Kiene" wrote in message
m...
Hi All,

There is a dramatic difference between fly line finishes. I have sold them
all sense 1965 and have cast them all too.

There are tons of real old technology lines out there for the low price
point market that feel like sand paper when you cast them. We are always
looking for the best value for the dollar. Fly lines like the old SA
'Aircel' and Cortland '333' are 1950s technology. You have to get to a
certain level to get into the newer smoother finish lines that are not
going
to negatively effect your casting.

We found that the Cortland '444' peach colored line (1964) has been the
turning point for many years. Another newer line that is great for
beginners
in the SA/Master 'Head Start' (~year 2000) because it has the new 'AST'
finish. We are talking $40 and up to get something that is real smooth and
will cast very near like the best. The best lines in the world now are
only
$60USD so I don't know why anyone would not get the best?

The best rods are $700 so that is understandable why most won't go there.

For many years the common advise to put the most money towards a good fly
line, secondly the rod and lastly the reel.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Your logic is good. The advantage of a weight foreward is that you can
cast
it further when you learn how to shoot line, and you can carry more
backing.
the latter is not a consideration if you have a larger reel to start
with.
Eventually you may find some discomfort with the size of the reel, and
you
may want to get one that would better balnace the reel as Sven
suggested.
If you're just getting started, I would worry to much about that yet.
(unless money is no object)
Which band and which model? A good a starting line is the Sci. Angler
333
available (or was) at Walmart for less than $30 If money is no object,
most
of the lines are good. The only line I don't like is the clear
Cortland
555..too much memory!
"Dan" wrote in message
...
I want to start fly fishing and have rod (5 wt) and reel (7wt). I will
buy
a
5 wt floating line since this has recommended for me, but am wondering
whether a weight forward or double taper would be appropriate. I see
the
advantage of the DT is that you get twice the use because you can
reverse
it
eventually. I would also think that since my reel is a bit large for
my
rod/line weight that a double taper might be appropriate. Do you guys
think
it would be a good idea or should I just get a weight forward line?
Also,
does it matter which exactly one I get? I have been told to get the
best
or
close to it. Do you have any specific recommendations as to brand?

TIA

Dan




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