Line choice for beginner

"Willi" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Mike Connor wrote:

Otherwise I use a large spool Shimano Titanos "Aerlex" GT7000. See
here;

http://www.angel-domaene.de/catalog/...roducts_id=223


You don't consider this to be fly casting do you Mike?

Willi



I cast a fly with it.

It is not conventional of course. However, the only real difference is that
the casting weight is not elongated. ( i.e. a line).

TL
MC

"Greg Pavlov" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:09:17 +0200, "Mike Connor"
wrote:


See here; http://www.ausfish.com.au/alvey/3.htm


How do you mitigate the line twist one tends to
get with these reels ?

I have never had much of a problem with it. The long slow retrieve seems to
remove most of it.

TL
MC

Ithanks mike. I found these articles very interesting. I fish in fresh
water a lot in the west of ireland, but would like to try some of these
sal****er methods

Lazarus

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"Lazarus Cooke" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Ithanks mike. I found these articles very interesting. I fish in fresh
water a lot in the west of ireland, but would like to try some of these
sal****er methods

Lazarus

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My pleasure Lazarus. I hope to get over to Ireland this year. Don´t know
whether I will manage it though. There is some great bass fishing, among
other things!

TL
MC

In article , Mike Connor
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I hope to get over to Ireland this year. Don´t know
whether I will manage it though. There is some great bass fishing, among
other things!

I'd love to try them, but I'm not sure if they come as far north as
Donegal. I have tried using my freshwater tackle there, in an estuary
trying for sea trout (as suggested by Falkus) but found it fairly
useless. While I much prefer DT lines for freshwater, I realize that I
must make myself a shooting head for the sea.

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something old is new again: casting floats of this style were recommended 30
to 40 years ago for people who wanted to fish a fly but couldn't handle fly
casting or didn't own the right tackle. Even dry flies could be fished with
clear torpedo floats. A bit of water could be added to a clear torpedo float
the main line attached to the top and a dry fly fished from a short dropper
2 or 3 feet above the float. This assembly was then tossed across current
and the float walked or steer downstream to allow the fly skate over
riffles.

The ubiquitous kids red and white bubble floats uses the same sort of
principle - the float is made of 2 semi spheres held together by a spring.
The spring can be released to add a bit of water for weight and viola weight
for casting without lead.

The Canadian gov't has promised to ban lead weights within the next year to
2 so maybe we'll have to return to these sort of techniques - hmmmm.

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"Willi" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Mike Connor wrote:

Otherwise I use a large spool Shimano Titanos "Aerlex" GT7000. See
here;


http://www.angel-domaene.de/catalog/...115_118&produc
ts_id=223


You don't consider this to be fly casting do you Mike?

Willi



I cast a fly with it.

It is not conventional of course. However, the only real difference is
that
the casting weight is not elongated. ( i.e. a line).

TL
MC

In article , Mike Connor
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I cast a fly with it.

It is not conventional of course. However, the only real difference is that
the casting weight is not elongated. ( i.e. a line).

Some years ago while fishing a "fly-only" reservoir one character used
to use a spinning reel (Threadline reel) and cast a lead weight behind
which he attached a
"fly" - a lure of sorts. he would retrieve just as one would a spinner.
he was castigated for his blatant breach of the reservoir rules
regarding "fly-fishing" only. he used the same argument as you do - "I'm
fishing a fly" This didn't go down at all well with the other anglers
who obeyed the rules. the fishery owner wouldn't be convinced that the
"Character" was breaking the rules simply because he was a very good
customer at the reservoir.

Money talks you see. :-)

Even you Mike must agree that the method you advocate has its merits but
cannot be described as traditional fly fishing.
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"W. D. Grey" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Even you Mike must agree that the method you advocate has its merits but
cannot be described as traditional fly fishing.
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http://www.billboy.co.uk

Oh I agree Bill. I even warn people not to try it without informing
themselves of the rules first. I use this gear in the ocean, where there
are no rules on gear( as yet!). I have also used it on large lakes and
similar places for getting large ( usually pike) flies out to where I want
them. This allows one to cover fish which are more or less unreachable with
conventional tackle, and allows the use of far larger flies as well. Many
pike have a specific "prey size range", and using flies outside this range
is pointless. One reason incidentally why not many people catch really big
pike on flies.

Mind you, I knew several people ( myself included) who used "conventional"
gear for upstream worming and the like. Same difference, but bait on the
hook ( Requires considerably more skill than fly-fishing as well!) It
certainly teaches perfect presentation, anything less, and you simply lose
your bait, or catch nothing at all!

Lastly, I was not "advocating" anything, merely outlining possibilities.

TL
MC

In article , Mike Connor
wrote:

Since I wrote those articles, I have improved my gear somewhat, and I now
use a special "Sbirulino" rod for this technique. It allows me to cast
further, and is also more sensitive. I also only use the "sidecast" reel
mentioned in the articles, in winter, when I don´t want freezing fingers.

See here; http://www.ausfish.com.au/alvey/3.htm

The one I use is not listed, I bought it in the UK. It is very similar
though. Black carbon fibre, single action. large capacity sidecast reel.

Where in the uK?

Lazarus

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"Lazarus Cooke" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Where in the uK?

Lazarus

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Mullarkeys. Mail order. They don´t have a website. If you need the address,
then drop me a mail.

TL
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