So Wolfgang and Joel...Any Fish?

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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Joel Axelrad wrote:

Wayne wrote:

on my only colorado trip, about a decade ago, the best fly, by far, on
the three or four creeks we fished was a 16 royal trude.
yfitp
wayno

Hi Wayno,
Sshhhhh. . .don't tell the other folks (another pattern that works
surprisingly well is a Rio Grande King Trude pattern . . .kinda think of a
Pass Lake with a Golden Pheasant tippet tail. I don't use chenille or
peacock for the body, but just synthetic body material. I also don't quite
do the front portion of the fly as Wolfgang did for a swap. (ROFF FS 2000)
I also do the wing before I do the hackle. (Hmmmm . . .different tail,
different body, different wing position on the body, different hackle
position, same black thread . . . maybe different size of thread . . .
sounds like the same pattern to me . . . grin)

Bill Claspy did another version of the Pass Lake for the ROFF FS2004 swap.
Looked like more of a streamer version. (which may have been where it
started)


Both are on Stan Gula's site.
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/

Just another thanks to all the swapmeisters. I enjoy the ideas of the
tiers, and to Stan, and all others, for allowing me to see them.

Both the Royal Trude and Rio Grande King Trude work well in my portion of
the West. (and in the East, North, and South where I wandered about in the
past) As I recall, when I was playing a bit in the fly industry, we did a
Royal Lime Trude for some folks also. I've also done them with an orange
center portion and a black center portion, and a yellow center portion.

The stuff I tie has become, usually, much more simple, over the last 30
years or so, but it is fun looking at new variations of things, and the
materials that appear.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver (and heck . . .I just enjoy the look of peacock on any patterns, thus
my simple response to a Royal Trude post)

"DaveMohnsen" wrote...
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Just another thanks to all the swapmeisters. I enjoy the ideas of the
tiers, and to Stan, and all others, for allowing me to see them.

I'll second that. I go to Stan's site on a regular basis for pattern referral
and just to get ideas. Very cool.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

On 4/27/04 10:31 AM, in article
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
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Joel Axelrad wrote:

Wayne wrote:

on my only colorado trip, about a decade ago, the best fly, by far, on
the three or four creeks we fished was a 16 royal trude.
yfitp
wayno

Hi Wayno,
Sshhhhh. . .don't tell the other folks (another pattern that works
surprisingly well is a Rio Grande King Trude pattern . . .kinda think of a
Pass Lake with a Golden Pheasant tippet tail. I don't use chenille or
peacock for the body, but just synthetic body material. I also don't quite
do the front portion of the fly as Wolfgang did for a swap. (ROFF FS 2000)
I also do the wing before I do the hackle. (Hmmmm . . .different tail,
different body, different wing position on the body, different hackle
position, same black thread . . . maybe different size of thread . . .
sounds like the same pattern to me . . . grin)

Bill Claspy did another version of the Pass Lake for the ROFF FS2004 swap.
Looked like more of a streamer version. (which may have been where it
started)

Took the pattern directly from Royce Dam's book. My understanding is that
it is/was originally a streamer pattern. Here's another somewhat clearer
picture of the one I tied:

http://salvelinus.cwru.edu/passlake2_wpc.jpg

I've only fished it once or twice and haven't caught anything on it. Hoping
to get some instruction from our resident Curdistani during Penns. Got room
on your dance card, Wolfgang?

Bill

"William Claspy" wrote in message
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Bill Claspy did another version of the Pass Lake for the ROFF
FS2004 swap.
Looked like more of a streamer version. (which may have been where
it
started)

Took the pattern directly from Royce Dam's book. My understanding
is that
it is/was originally a streamer pattern. Here's another somewhat
clearer
picture of the one I tied:

http://salvelinus.cwru.edu/passlake2_wpc.jpg

I've only fished it once or twice and haven't caught anything on it.
Hoping
to get some instruction from our resident Curdistani during Penns.
Got room
on your dance card, Wolfgang?

Sure thing......um.....looks like I've got some tying to do.....unless
Joel and Wayno will let me borrow a Pass Lake or two?

Incidentally, I suspect all of the bugs named in this exchange
(excepting the streamer version of the PL) work for precisely the same
reason.....that big chunk of meat hanging below the surface and
suspended there by the hair wing looks like a crippled
something....and the fish don't much care just what that something is.

Wolfgang

On 4/27/04 12:12 PM, in article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Incidentally, I suspect all of the bugs named in this exchange
(excepting the streamer version of the PL) work for precisely the same
reason.....that big chunk of meat hanging below the surface and
suspended there by the hair wing looks like a crippled
something....and the fish don't much care just what that something is.

Royce Dam mentions fishing the version I tied with floatant on the hair
wing, which would probably give it the same dead/dangling critter look-
might be worth a try in two and a half weeks.

Bill
(Two and a half weeks! Hot damn!)