fly line setup advice

Im in the west of Ireland and would like to do some fly fishing for
brown trout. I have looked on the net at setting up a fly rod and fly
line but have found no relevant information - mostly people trying to
sell tackle!

What I need is information on setting up the fly line itself
preferable in a step-by-step breakdown of the different sections,
lengths used and how to tie them together.

I have fished successfully with spinners but would now like to have a
go at fly fishing. Is it really so difficult to set up a fly rod?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Andy S.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/
http://www.associatedinternet.com/fl...01/default.htm


one or two links for you
john

"Andy" wrote in message
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Im in the west of Ireland and would like to do some fly fishing for
brown trout. I have looked on the net at setting up a fly rod and fly
line but have found no relevant information - mostly people trying to
sell tackle!

What I need is information on setting up the fly line itself
preferable in a step-by-step breakdown of the different sections,
lengths used and how to tie them together.

I have fished successfully with spinners but would now like to have a
go at fly fishing. Is it really so difficult to set up a fly rod?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Andy S.

"Andy" wrote in message
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Im in the west of Ireland and would like to do some fly fishing for
brown trout. I have looked on the net at setting up a fly rod and fly
line but have found no relevant information - mostly people trying to
sell tackle!

Other sources:
-- tackle shops;
-- books in libraries,
-- videos too;
-- individual anglers.

If buying tackle in a local tackle shop, it is reasonable
to expect the vendor to set up everything for you, e.g.
fastern backing to reel and line, leader to line, and
show you how the line is strung through the guides.
This takes only 5 minutes. The practical difficulty is
learning to cast, because fly line action is different
from a spinner on nylon. Books can help but personal
coaching (from someone who has thought through
how to teach beginners) is better.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)

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Im in the west of Ireland and would like to do some fly fishing for
brown trout. I have looked on the net at setting up a fly rod and fly
line but have found no relevant information - mostly people trying to
sell tackle!

What I need is information on setting up the fly line itself
preferable in a step-by-step breakdown of the different sections,
lengths used and how to tie them together.

I have fished successfully with spinners but would now like to have a
go at fly fishing. Is it really so difficult to set up a fly rod?

I'd strongly agree that a tackle shop is a good place to start. Owners
love starting people off because they so easily become hooked
themselves!
Maybe a nine foot rod, about five or six weight (although you might
want something a bit longer if you're going to be fishing still waters
) I use a six-weight nine foot rod in the west of Ireland for brown
trout, white trout and summer salmon.

The great thing about this sort of fishing is that you need so little
gear - rod, reel, line, scissors and a few flies in a matchbox. Setting
up rod and line are simple; as the man says, you could do with a bit of
practical help on casting. Thereafter you go on and on improving - it
never stops.

Whereabouts are you?

Lazarus.

--
Remover the rock from the email address

This seems like a good place to start: http://www.sexyloops.com/index.shtml

Bob C. in Idaho
Idahoans for Nader

"Andy" wrote in message
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Im in the west of Ireland and would like to do some fly fishing for
brown trout. I have looked on the net at setting up a fly rod and fly
line but have found no relevant information - mostly people trying to
sell tackle!

What I need is information on setting up the fly line itself
preferable in a step-by-step breakdown of the different sections,
lengths used and how to tie them together.

I have fished successfully with spinners but would now like to have a
go at fly fishing. Is it really so difficult to set up a fly rod?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Andy S.

Hi Andy,

I am assuming you already have a fly rod, fly reel and the fly line.

I will be referring mostly to a standard floating line now.

This is pretty standard info for attaching fly lines and is the norm in most
California fly shops.

You need enough "backing line" to fill the reel up so the fly line comes to
about 1/4" of the edge of the spool . The amount of backing needed varies a
lot depending on the size of the reel and the size and type of the fly line.
If you state what reel (make, model and size) and which exact fly line you
will use ( type and size), we can give you an idea how much backing line you
will need.

Backing line is braided Dacron line that has very little stretch so it won't
cut into its self and expand the fragile fly reel spools. If you use high
quality braided Dacron backing line it will be a nice smaller diameter. Less
expensive braided Dacron is very large in diameter which makes it hard for
us to "needle nail knot" in to the center or core of the fly line.

Most floating fly lines have a braided nylon core that is hollow and allows
us to be able to put a needle into the middle on the rear of the line and
pull the backing inside to make a clean connection called the "needle nail
knot". We use this connection on most braided core line up to about a 9
weight line.

I think most fly shops use 20# braided Dacron backing for outfits from trout
to light salt water. From 10 weights outfits and up we use 30# braided
Dacron. On some very small reels and small lines, we use 12# backing at
times if we have a capacity problem.

We also use a needle nail knot of the front of most fresh water lines with a
level piece of mono that is about 2/3 the diameter of the front or point of
the line. For trout rods this can be around .021" or ~25# test mono. On
larger lines we use .023" and larger for a butt section diameter.

A "butt section" is a piece of level mono that is attached to the front end
of a fly line and then allows you to connect your tapered leader without
having to tie to the fly line all the time. We use a needle nail knot for
attaching the butt section on fresh water tackle most of the time.

I think it is great to learn all this stuff but if you have a good fly shop
near by, they do it all day long so it is easier for them to do this for
you.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Andy" wrote in message
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Im in the west of Ireland and would like to do some fly fishing for
brown trout. I have looked on the net at setting up a fly rod and fly
line but have found no relevant information - mostly people trying to
sell tackle!

What I need is information on setting up the fly line itself
preferable in a step-by-step breakdown of the different sections,
lengths used and how to tie them together.

I have fished successfully with spinners but would now like to have a
go at fly fishing. Is it really so difficult to set up a fly rod?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Andy S.