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got up this mornin, loaded up the car with all the goodies that frank sent
me, as well as the numerous psychedelic, green, and black spiders generously given to me by big dale, popped some indigo girls into the tape player, and headed out with my daughter to wildcat lake in banner elk for a day of fishing an swimming. as is typical in the higher elevations of the blue ridge, the afternoon became fairly cool, so more time was spent fishing than swimming. after picking out our spot in the sand, and unloading our gear, my daughter and i picked up our rods, she the spin rod, while i gleefully assembled my new fly rod for my first time out with it. since i knew this lake to be stocked mostly with bluegill, i used the psychedelic spider that dale said would be best for these fish. what fun to watch the fish swim around it, and come up and nibble at it. i made the spider jump and skip around a little bit in the water, and before too long i had hooked my first fish ( a bluegill) on my new fly rod. what a rush!! with much anticipation of my next catch i recast, and repeated several times- with no further luck. i had many more bites, but hooked none. my daughter and i went home after a couple of hours, and ate dinner, which was followed by a trip to bass lake in blowing rock. this lake too, is mostly stocked with bluegill, and the like, and so the spider was returned to the rod. dale had suggested looking for a bluegill bed and trying to cast around it, and even though i didn't know what one looked like beforehand, it was not difficult to recognize one. i cast my line right at the bed, where the bluegill guarding it could not miss it. but that son of a bitch was so on task! nothing was going to deter him from the duty at hand- not even such a culinary temptation! i soon realized, after watching him run off any other fish that came near the bed, that there would be no point attempting to fish in that spot. i moved over some, between two sections of lily pads, and watched as the fish bit at the spider, but again i hooked nothing. finally , being driven home by the chilly evening winds, i drove off, satisfied with the first catch on my new fly rod. thank you frank, and big dale ;-) snakefiddler- who is ready to quit school, and become a fishin bum |
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![]() "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... got up this mornin, loaded up the car with all the goodies that frank sent me, as well as the numerous psychedelic, green, and black spiders generously given to me by big dale, popped some indigo girls into the tape player, and headed out with my daughter to wildcat lake in banner elk for a day of fishing an swimming. as is typical in the higher elevations of the blue ridge, the afternoon became fairly cool, so more time was spent fishing than swimming. after picking out our spot in the sand, and unloading our gear, my daughter and i picked up our rods, she the spin rod, while i gleefully assembled my new fly rod for my first time out with it. since i knew this lake to be stocked mostly with bluegill, i used the psychedelic spider that dale said would be best for these fish. what fun to watch the fish swim around it, and come up and nibble at it. i made the spider jump and skip around a little bit in the water, and before too long i had hooked my first fish ( a bluegill) on my new fly rod. what a rush!! with much anticipation of my next catch i recast, and repeated several times- with no further luck. i had many more bites, but hooked none. my daughter and i went home after a couple of hours, and ate dinner, which was followed by a trip to bass lake in blowing rock. this lake too, is mostly stocked with bluegill, and the like, and so the spider was returned to the rod. dale had suggested looking for a bluegill bed and trying to cast around it, and even though i didn't know what one looked like beforehand, it was not difficult to recognize one. i cast my line right at the bed, where the bluegill guarding it could not miss it. but that son of a bitch was so on task! nothing was going to deter him from the duty at hand- not even such a culinary temptation! i soon realized, after watching him run off any other fish that came near th e bed, that there would be no point attempting to fish in that spot. i moved over some, between two sections of lily pads, and watched as the fish bit at the spider, but again i hooked nothing. finally , being driven home by the chilly evening winds, i drove off, satisfied with the first catch on my new fly rod. thank you frank, and big dale ;-) Dale's bugs are notoriously deadly for bluegills.....but NO bug works all the time. I've been bit on the nipples three times by bluegills, and I once watched one bite two mallards on their respective asses. Next time , try varying the offerings a bit. ![]() snakefiddler- who is ready to quit school, and become a fishin bum Actually, the two are eminently combinable. Wolfgang who has been there. |
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![]() "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... got up this mornin, loaded up the car with all the goodies that frank sent me, as well as the numerous psychedelic, green, and black spiders generously given to me by big dale, popped some indigo girls into the tape player, and headed out with my daughter to wildcat lake in banner elk for a day of fishing an swimming. as is typical in the higher elevations of the blue ridge, the afternoon became fairly cool, so more time was spent fishing than swimming. after picking out our spot in the sand, and unloading our gear, my daughter and i picked up our rods, she the spin rod, while i gleefully assembled my new fly rod for my first time out with it. since i knew this lake to be stocked mostly with bluegill, i used the psychedelic spider that dale said would be best for these fish. what fun to watch the fish swim around it, and come up and nibble at it. i made the spider jump and skip around a little bit in the water, and before too long i had hooked my first fish ( a bluegill) on my new fly rod. what a rush!! with much anticipation of my next catch i recast, and repeated several times- with no further luck. i had many more bites, but hooked none. my daughter and i went home after a couple of hours, and ate dinner, which was followed by a trip to bass lake in blowing rock. this lake too, is mostly stocked with bluegill, and the like, and so the spider was returned to the rod. dale had suggested looking for a bluegill bed and trying to cast around it, and even though i didn't know what one looked like beforehand, it was not difficult to recognize one. i cast my line right at the bed, where the bluegill guarding it could not miss it. but that son of a bitch was so on task! nothing was going to deter him from the duty at hand- not even such a culinary temptation! i soon realized, after watching him run off any other fish that came near th e bed, that there would be no point attempting to fish in that spot. i moved over some, between two sections of lily pads, and watched as the fish bit at the spider, but again i hooked nothing. finally , being driven home by the chilly evening winds, i drove off, satisfied with the first catch on my new fly rod. thank you frank, and big dale ;-) Dale's bugs are notoriously deadly for bluegills.....but NO bug works all the time. I've been bit on the nipples three times OUCH! i'll keep my guard up..... ;-) by bluegills, and I once watched one bite two mallards on their respective asses. Next time , try varying the offerings a bit. ![]() dale did suggest switching between the psychedelics, the blacks, and olives..... thanks for the tip ;-) i will need many more! snakefiddler- who is ready to quit school, and become a fishin bum Actually, the two are eminently combinable. true , i did have my daughter quiz me while we were fishing, for an exam i have in my north american indians class tommorrow ;-) snake Wolfgang who has been there. |
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![]() "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... Dale's bugs are notoriously deadly for bluegills.....but NO bug works all the time. I've been bit on the nipples three times OUCH! Oh, it didn't hurt. It's just that......well, all unexpected like it was......uh.....kind of startling. As a matter of fact, many people would probab.......um.......well, never mind. i'll keep my guard up..... ;-) Do that. Kennie gets kinda........well, you know. and I once watched one bite two mallards on their respective asses. Next time , try varying the offerings a bit. ![]() dale did suggest switching between the psychedelics, the blacks, and olives..... thanks for the tip ;-) i will need many more! And you'll find them here. You'll need to do a bit of wading......but then, that's sort of the name of the game, ainna? ![]() snakefiddler- who is ready to quit school, and become a fishin bum Actually, the two are eminently combinable. true , i did have my daughter quiz me while we were fishing, for an exam i have in my north american indians class tommorrow ;-) If it's an area of particular interest.....as opposed to merely another class.....you might want to have a look at "Captured by the Indians", subtitled "15 Firsthand Accounts, 1750-1870", edited by Frederick Drimmer, Dover Publications, 1961. As the title suggests, it's a compendium of abbreviated versions of the accounts of a number of "white" people who had a more intimate and more extended look at the subject matter than most. Wolfgang |
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![]() "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... Dale's bugs are notoriously deadly for bluegills.....but NO bug works all the time. I've been bit on the nipples three times OUCH! Oh, it didn't hurt. It's just that......well, all unexpected like it was......uh.....kind of startling. As a matter of fact, many people would probab.......um.......well, never mind. left ya a little confused, huh, wolfie? i'll keep my guard up..... ;-) Do that. Kennie gets kinda........well, you know. kinda, kennie? and I once watched one bite two mallards on their respective asses. Next time , try varying the offerings a bit. ![]() dale did suggest switching between the psychedelics, the blacks, and olives..... thanks for the tip ;-) i will need many more! And you'll find them here. You'll need to do a bit of wading......but then, that's sort of the name of the game, ainna? ![]() certainly, and part of the attraction for a lover of the water, eh? i actually did a good amount of wading yesterday, and in the somewhat rocky lake in blowing rock, a pair of simms freestones bought for me by another freind who is kind enough to assist in my endeavor, came in very handy for just that purpose. ;-) snakefiddler- who is ready to quit school, and become a fishin bum Actually, the two are eminently combinable. true , i did have my daughter quiz me while we were fishing, for an exam i have in my north american indians class tommorrow ;-) If it's an area of particular interest.....as opposed to merely another class.....you might want to have a look at "Captured by the Indians", subtitled "15 Firsthand Accounts, 1750-1870", edited by Frederick Drimmer, Dover Publications, 1961. As the title suggests, it's a compendium of abbreviated versions of the accounts of a number of "white" people who had a more intimate and more extended look at the subject matter than most. i'll look it up, and yes it is a particular interest, as my minor is anthropology, and i *am* interested in indian history and culture. family lore has it that we possess some amount of cherokee blood- i think from my great great grandmother. anyway, my instructor, a very nice looking, bearded, young , hip, animated, exhuberant, sandal wearing fella................................ oh wait, where was i? ;-) oh yeah, anyway, he teaches a class that concentrates soley on the mississippian indian culture- a class i would really like to fit into my schedule before i finish up. snakefiddler- on my way to work- but would rather be fishin......... Wolfgang |
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![]() "snakefiddler" wrote in message i'll look it up, and yes it is a particular interest, as my minor is anthropology, and i *am* interested in indian history and culture. Indian Joe offers --you might enjoy readin "McIntosh and Weatherford -Creek Indian Leaders " by Ben Griffith Chief Billy was some generations back. |
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![]() "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... - Actually, the two are eminently combinable. true , i did have my daughter quiz me while we were fishing, for an exam i have in my north american indians class tommorrow ;-) If it's an area of particular interest.....as opposed to merely another class.....you might want to have a look at "Captured by the Indians", subtitled "15 Firsthand Accounts, 1750-1870", edited by Frederick Drimmer, Dover Publications, 1961. As the title suggests, it's a compendium of abbreviated versions of the accounts of a number of "white" people who had a more intimate and more extended look at the subject matter than most. Wolfgang i picked that one up today as well. it'll be interesting to read these accounts from the white perspective. the instructor of my north american indians class said on the first day that he will be telling us stories that will inspire rage at people on both sides of the issue, as well as anger and pity. i already know this to be true, and i suspect this book may contain some material that will provoke those same emotions. i always enjoy being introduced to new resources on such subjects, and books are *one* of my favorite things, to which anyone who has been in my home can attest. snakefiddler |
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![]() "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... - Actually, the two are eminently combinable. true , i did have my daughter quiz me while we were fishing, for an exam i have in my north american indians class tommorrow ;-) If it's an area of particular interest.....as opposed to merely another class.....you might want to have a look at "Captured by the Indians", subtitled "15 Firsthand Accounts, 1750-1870", edited by Frederick Drimmer, Dover Publications, 1961. As the title suggests, it's a compendium of abbreviated versions of the accounts of a number of "white" people who had a more intimate and more extended look at the subject matter than most. Wolfgang i picked that one up today as well. it'll be interesting to read these accounts from the white perspective. It's probably been about a year since I read it, so I can only offer some dimly recollected impressions. As I recall, I thought Drimmer's selections presented a fairly balanced view of what is after all a pretty lopsided phenomenon......though, come to think of it, while the mechanics were often radically different, a great many Indians were also kidnapped by Whites. I remember wondering why there were no accounts preceding 1750. Surely, this was not the earliest that such an event occurred and the victim lived to tell the tale. The may be something about this in the prefatory material but, if so, I don't remember it. Drimmer's notes are perfunctory and he did not include a bibliography or an index.......he should be gutshot, but it's probably too late. ![]() My copy is in paperback. On the insides of both front and back covers is a list of 51 other "Dover Books on the American Indian". If yours doesn't have this list and you're interested, let me know via email. I'll be happy to send it.......um......it might take a few days......and I can't promise slavish adherence to MLA standards. the instructor of my north american indians class said on the first day that he will be telling us stories that will inspire rage at people on both sides of the issue, as well as anger and pity. i already know this to be true, and i suspect this book may contain some material that will provoke those same emotions. Probably depends to a large extent on how easy one is to inspire. As for myself, I can't think many treatments that I would consider too harsh or barbaric for anyone who invaded my home......regardless of what side of which fence it might lie on. i always enjoy being introduced to new resources on such subjects, and books are *one* of my favorite things, to which anyone who has been in my home can attest. I try to observes the usual social forms when entering someone else's house for the first time, but I can't help but let my eyes quickly scan the room for bookshelves. If there are any present, I WILL find an opportunity to browse. ![]() Wolfgang oh, and if i'm not mistaken (and i'm not), we have in our midst a couple of wonderful "human resources" for further investigation into matters bibliographical.....they will make their presence known if and when needed......and if they are so inclined. |
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snakefidler wrote:snipwhich was followed by a trip to bass lake
One morning during Waldo's Spring Fling Waldo took Frank and I over to bass lake and we had some fun for a couple of hours. You won't be doing much wading in that lake if you were fishing where we were. The little black and olive flies I sent you are called Cap Spiders and are tied on 1/124 ounce crappie jugs so they sink. If the fish do not want to take the flies off the surface, then try one of the Cap spiders and slowly crawl them along the bottom. They work pretty good at times. Nothing works great all the time, but I have caught so many fish on these two kind of flies that they are my "go to" flies. The only way to get used to hooking them is to keep doing it. That is why is suggested learning on bluegill...you get more chances in a morning than on trout in most cases. When I fished bass lake I kept hanging my flies in the trees on the backcast. I hope you decorated a tree or two while you were there also. grin. Keep it up and have fun with this. Big Dale |
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![]() "Big Dale" wrote in message ... snakefidler wrote:snipwhich was followed by a trip to bass lake One morning during Waldo's Spring Fling Waldo took Frank and I over to bass lake and we had some fun for a couple of hours. You won't be doing much wading in that lake if you were fishing where we were. The little black and olive flies I sent you are called Cap Spiders and are tied on 1/124 ounce crappie jugs so they sink. If the fish do not want to take the flies off the surface, then try one of the Cap spiders and slowly crawl them along the bottom. cool- manipulating these things is a good part of the fun They work pretty good at times. Nothing works great all the time, but I have caught so many fish on these two kind of flies that they are my "go to" flies. The only way to get used to hooking them is to keep doing it. That is why is suggested learning on bluegill...you get more chances in a morning than on trout in most cases. When I fished bass lake I kept hanging my flies in the trees on the backcast. I hope you decorated a tree or two while you were there also. grin. i did get my line caught in a tree once, but happily it settled on a low branch, so i was able to retrieve it. i am following the instructions from the video that frank sent, and casted by raising my arm from the 9:00 position to 12:00- without bending my wrist. that part wasn't too difficult- controlling the "excess" line as it went through the rod was more tricky, and i had diffficulty with the power stroke. of course, since i don't have eyes in the back of my head, i had no way to judge the quality of my loops. G i'm workin on it,though. snakefiddler Keep it up and have fun with this. Big Dale |
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