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Old June 17th, 2004, 02:20 AM
snakefiddler
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i'm sure roff has had *this* discussion a million times, but what are some
of ya'll's opinions regarding barbed hooks vs barbless-
i met a guy fishin today that says he prefers barbless- hadn't thought about
it before.

snakefiddler


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Old June 17th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Stan Gula
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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i'm sure roff has had *this* discussion a million times, but what are some
of ya'll's opinions regarding barbed hooks vs barbless-
i met a guy fishin today that says he prefers barbless- hadn't thought

about
it before.

snakefiddler



Barbless make it much easier to release fish and yourself. If you plan on
keeping fish and yourself, then barbs are good. Some people argue that a
barbless hook penetrates the fish's mouth better because it's a smaller
diameter, and that might be right, but probably trivially.

I tie my flies on real barbless hooks sometimes, but usually I just mash the
barb flat with a pair of flat jawed pliers.

Let me tell you, you don't know frustration until you bury a size 6 hook in
your forearm and realize you forgot to mash the barb and you don't have any
wire cutters. I buried two big hooks in my arm last year, and the barbless
one was much easier to deal with.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 02:50 AM
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"Stan Gula" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i'm sure roff has had *this* discussion a million times, but what are

some
of ya'll's opinions regarding barbed hooks vs barbless-
i met a guy fishin today that says he prefers barbless- hadn't thought

about
it before.

snakefiddler



Barbless make it much easier to release fish and yourself. If you plan on
keeping fish and yourself, then barbs are good. Some people argue that a
barbless hook penetrates the fish's mouth better because it's a smaller
diameter, and that might be right, but probably trivially.

I tie my flies on real barbless hooks sometimes, but usually I just mash

the
barb flat with a pair of flat jawed pliers.

Let me tell you, you don't know frustration until you bury a size 6 hook

in
your forearm and realize you forgot to mash the barb and you don't have

any
wire cutters. I buried two big hooks in my arm last year, and the

barbless
one was much easier to deal with.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps



might also have made a situation i had the other day easier. i hooked a
sunfish, problem was he all but swallowed the fly. it was a bitch to get
out, and i'm sure there was no way he survived. i couldn't do the merciful
thing and kill it and cook it because i was in a catch and release only
creek. sucked.

snakefiddler


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Old June 17th, 2004, 02:54 AM
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snakefiddler wrote:

might also have made a situation i had the other day easier. i hooked a
sunfish, problem was he all but swallowed the fly. it was a bitch to get
out, and i'm sure there was no way he survived. i couldn't do the merciful
thing and kill it and cook it because i was in a catch and release only
creek. sucked.


The best thing to do in such a case is to cut the fly off. You should
also carry hemostats for removing flies.

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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:00 AM
snakefiddler
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"rw" wrote in message
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snakefiddler wrote:

might also have made a situation i had the other day easier. i hooked a
sunfish, problem was he all but swallowed the fly. it was a bitch to

get
out, and i'm sure there was no way he survived. i couldn't do the

merciful
thing and kill it and cook it because i was in a catch and release only
creek. sucked.


The best thing to do in such a case is to cut the fly off. You should
also carry hemostats for removing flies.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


frank sent me hemostats, but how is cutting the fly off good? wouldn't the
fish just swim around with that thing hooked in there until it finally
developed some kind of foreign body reaction, or something?

snakefiddler


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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:12 AM
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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frank sent me hemostats, but how is cutting the fly off good? wouldn't

the
fish just swim around with that thing hooked in there until it finally
developed some kind of foreign body reaction, or something?


No, often the fly works it way out or the hook rusts out. Either way it
beats creating internal injury to a fish you're going to release.


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Old June 17th, 2004, 01:44 PM
Scott Seidman
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"snakefiddler" wrote in
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might also have made a situation i had the other day easier. i hooked
a sunfish, problem was he all but swallowed the fly. it was a bitch
to get out, and i'm sure there was no way he survived. i couldn't do
the merciful thing and kill it and cook it because i was in a catch
and release only creek. sucked.

snakefiddler




Yeah, bluegill and the like tend to suck flies down pretty deep. Sometimes, a good
set of hemostats will help you reach the hook without killing the fish, but other
times it works out the way it worked out for you.

The advice for trout you can't keep is to cut the line as close to the hook as you
can, and release the fish.

Scott
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Old June 17th, 2004, 04:27 AM
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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i'm sure roff has had *this* ... a million times, but what are some
of ya'll's opinions regarding barbe ... vs barb...-
i met a guy... today that says he prefers barb...- hadn't thought about
it before.



There you go, stirring up trouble again.


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Old June 17th, 2004, 04:37 PM
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"Tim Carter" wrote in message
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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i'm sure roff has had *this* ... a million times, but what are some
of ya'll's opinions regarding barbe ... vs barb...-
i met a guy... today that says he prefers barb...- hadn't thought about
it before.



There you go, stirring up trouble again.



i'm just like that, ya know
Snake


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Old June 17th, 2004, 07:00 AM
Charlie Wilson
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My job as a cop requires almost daily visits to the local ER, where you
can't help but walk by a "trophy board" displaying items they have removed
from patients over the years. Some 75% of those items are fishing related,
the remainder of those items indicate many people should not operate nail
guns. As you look at the board, about 6" from the left and a foot down, you
will see a #14 Prince nymph with a BIG ole barb, removed from my right hand
the day I started pinching down all the barbs.


 




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