hooks

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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thanks for the clarification- it's good to know the best way to handle
that
kind of a situation.
hopefully it won't happen again, but i have a feelin that if i fish long
enough......

It WILL happen again.....and it won't take long. If you sit and listen in a
place where sunfish and their allies are feeding, you will hear smacking or
snapping sounds as they suck in bugs off the surface. They don't simply
grab them with their lips. Small and/or relatively sleek flies frequently
get sucked deep into the mouth or even the throat before you can set the
hook.

Incidentally, are you sure that the catch and release requirement applied to
sunfish? In Wisconsin and Michigan panfish are exempt from many of the
restrictions applied to other species. I don't know of any place in either
state where they must be released......though I wouldn't be a bit surprised
if someone comes back with examples.

Wolfgang

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 06:18:35 -0500, "Wolfgang"
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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Incidentally, are you sure that the catch and release requirement applied to
sunfish? In Wisconsin and Michigan panfish are exempt from many of the
restrictions applied to other species. I don't know of any place in either
state where they must be released......though I wouldn't be a bit surprised
if someone comes back with examples.

Time for you to not be surprized.

In MN, "Any fish that is caught and will not be utilized must be
returned alive back into the water." And them some blah and blah
about can't wantonly waste any usable portion or the whole fish. It
applies to all fish. They don't even exempt stuff like Gobys, which
are unwanted aliens.

So in MN, it's either reduced to possession and counts on your daily
limit (for the fish that have limits and it seems all panfish in Mn
have limits, though some are quite large in my estimation.) or it's
released alive and presumably as undamaged as possible. Just an
eentsy weentsy paragraph stuck in between stuff about transporting
your catch and advising not using lead for weights.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 06:18:35 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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Incidentally, are you sure that the catch and release requirement
applied to
sunfish? In Wisconsin and Michigan panfish are exempt from many of
the
restrictions applied to other species. I don't know of any place
in either
state where they must be released......though I wouldn't be a bit
surprised
if someone comes back with examples.

Time for you to not be surprized.

In MN, "Any fish that is caught and will not be utilized must be
returned alive back into the water." And them some blah and blah
about can't wantonly waste any usable portion or the whole fish. It
applies to all fish. They don't even exempt stuff like Gobys, which
are unwanted aliens.

So in MN, it's either reduced to possession and counts on your daily
limit (for the fish that have limits and it seems all panfish in Mn
have limits, though some are quite large in my estimation.) or it's
released alive and presumably as undamaged as possible. Just an
eentsy weentsy paragraph stuck in between stuff about transporting
your catch and advising not using lead for weights.


Good answer......wrong question.

The issue under consideration wasn't HOW fish are to be handled when
released, but whether or not there are places in the named states
where they MUST BE released.

I know for a fact that the Wisconsin regs contain language similar to
what you quoted above, and I'm reasonably certain that Michigan's do
too. But none of that speaks to the issue of whether or not any of
those states has fisheries from which sunfish and other panfish may
not be kept.

In retrospect, I think you may have been misled by my assertion that
"...panfish are exempt from many of the restrictions...". They are by
no means exempt from regulations concerned with proper handling.

Wolfgang

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:07:24 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

(snipped)

But none of that speaks to the issue of whether or not any of
those states has fisheries from which sunfish and other panfish may
not be kept.

In retrospect, I think you may have been misled by my assertion that
"...panfish are exempt from many of the restrictions...". They are by
no means exempt from regulations concerned with proper handling.

_Now_ I see. Sometimes I need it spelled out. Luckily this time I
didn't need to have it baby talked at me.

You're right on MN. Unless there is a special lake of some kind
somewhere with special regs (and I'm not going to check each lake,
because I doubt it), all panfish can be kept as long as it's within
the quite large limits. The only exception I've noticed is that in
one or two places you can keep more or less sunfish.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:07:24 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

(snipped)

But none of that speaks to the issue of whether or not any of
those states has fisheries from which sunfish and other panfish may
not be kept.

In retrospect, I think you may have been misled by my assertion that
"...panfish are exempt from many of the restrictions...". They are by
no means exempt from regulations concerned with proper handling.

_Now_ I see. Sometimes I need it spelled out. Luckily this time I
didn't need to have it baby talked at me.

You're right on MN. Unless there is a special lake of some kind
somewhere with special regs (and I'm not going to check each lake,
because I doubt it), all panfish can be kept as long as it's within
the quite large limits. The only exception I've noticed is that in
one or two places you can keep more or less sunfish.

I got an email earlier today from an impeccable source. There is, in one of
the western states, at least one lake from which one may not keep bluegills,
sunfish, et al......legally. It appears that it is done anyway. Surprise.

What makes the whole thing of more than mere academic interest for me is
that these are the about only freshwater fish that I have much interest in
eating. Looks like there are damned few places between Mexico and Canada
where I can't get them if the need arises. Goody. More for me.

Wolfgang