how to always come back from fishing to a nice dinner, a tidy house and someone who cars ?

Just like there are rules to drive on a road, there are rules about posting to UseNet. Each
UseNet News Group has a charter that lays out what is and what is not allowed to be posted.
Off Topic posts and spam are not allowed and if you read the Terms of Service of your ISP
you will find the posting Off Topic material is a violation of said Terms of Service. some
ISPs will terminate an account for such a violation. Most don't but they do mark it down
and if you continue the practice they will send you a warning. If you ignore the warning
then they may terminate your account. Is this what you want ?

Jim is right YOU are wrong. I am amazed that when I confront a non-professional spammer
(professional spammers never reply) they always think what they are doing or what they did
was OK.

* * Well it's NOT OK ! * *

Thank you for not "posting and running" but you need to learn what is and what isn't
acceptable UseNet posting.

There is little difference between your Off Topic Post and "EARN $50,000 PLUS (it's easy and
legal so at least read it!!)". The only difference is that the other poster is a
professional spammer using Indy and posted to the entire UseNet hierarchy and you are a rank
amateur and only posted this News Group (that I know of).

Now please -- come down from your high horse and learn what you did violated your ISPs Terms
of Service and violated the charter of this News Group.

Dave

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

Just like there are rules to drive on a road, there are rules about posting to UseNet. Each
UseNet News Group has a charter that lays out what is and what is not allowed to be posted.
Off Topic posts and spam are not allowed and if you read the Terms of Service of your ISP
you will find the posting Off Topic material is a violation of said Terms of Service. some
ISPs will terminate an account for such a violation. Most don't but they do mark it down
and if you continue the practice they will send you a warning. If you ignore the warning
then they may terminate your account. Is this what you want ?

Jim is right YOU are wrong. I am amazed that when I confront a non-professional spammer
(professional spammers never reply) they always think what they are doing or what they did
was OK.

* * Well it's NOT OK ! * *

Thank you for not "posting and running" but you need to learn what is and what isn't
acceptable UseNet posting.

There is little difference between your Off Topic Post and "EARN $50,000 PLUS (it's easy and
legal so at least read it!!)". The only difference is that the other poster is a
professional spammer using Indy and posted to the entire UseNet hierarchy and you are a rank
amateur and only posted this News Group (that I know of).

Now please -- come down from your high horse and learn what you did violated your ISPs Terms
of Service and violated the charter of this News Group.

Dave

Gee Dave,

Perhaps you could point us to this alledged charter. If alt.fishing
has one it will be the first group in the "alt" hierarchy that I have
seen with a charter. I hope you get over your overbearing ignorance
soon.

Jon

If you think that just because a News Group is in the "alt.*" hierarchy that there is NO
Charter, you are completely wrong !

While I have not been posting 'alt.fishing' for that long, I have been a UseNet user for
some 15 years !

Some charters are easier to find then others but the vast majority of UseNet News Groups
have either a charter or a FAQ so please do your homework before you make such a blatantly
wrong comment.

Dave



"Jon Splane" wrote in message ...
| Gee Dave,
|
| Perhaps you could point us to this alledged charter. If alt.fishing
| has one it will be the first group in the "alt" hierarchy that I have
| seen with a charter. I hope you get over your overbearing ignorance
| soon.
|
| Jon

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

If you think that just because a News Group is in the "alt.*" hierarchy that there is NO
Charter, you are completely wrong !

While I have not been posting 'alt.fishing' for that long, I have been a UseNet user for
some 15 years !

Some charters are easier to find then others but the vast majority of UseNet News Groups
have either a charter or a FAQ so please do your homework before you make such a blatantly
wrong comment.

Dave


Dave,

How about if you put up or shut up. Point us to a charter to this
newgroup. You stated in two seperate posts responding to "ozemail" that
he was in violation of the charter of this newsgroup. You owe him an
apology for your flaming as you are clearly in error as to the existence
of a charter for this group.

I notice you now claim that "most" newsgroups have charters rather than
claiming as in your earlier post that "all" newsgroups have charters.
Point us to some charters of some other "alt" newsgroups as you are so
certain they exist. You owe me an apology if you can't. If you have
been using usenet for 15 years and don't realize that "alt" groups dont
have charters you prove the truth of the adage that "there is no fool
like an old fool."

Jon
"Jon Splane" wrote in message ...
| Gee Dave,
|
| Perhaps you could point us to this alledged charter. If alt.fishing
| has one it will be the first group in the "alt" hierarchy that I have
| seen with a charter. I hope you get over your overbearing ignorance
| soon.
|
| Jon

I don't owe you or the spammer jack sh!t !

But since I am a COMSEC professional, I have the following bookmarked

http://www.stormpages.com/eaegis/antivirus.htm

You can find your own at the Internet Systems Consortium.

Dave



"Jon Splane" wrote in message ...
| Dave,
|
| How about if you put up or shut up. Point us to a charter to this
| newgroup. You stated in two seperate posts responding to "ozemail" that
| he was in violation of the charter of this newsgroup. You owe him an
| apology for your flaming as you are clearly in error as to the existence
| of a charter for this group.
|
| I notice you now claim that "most" newsgroups have charters rather than
| claiming as in your earlier post that "all" newsgroups have charters.
| Point us to some charters of some other "alt" newsgroups as you are so
| certain they exist. You owe me an apology if you can't. If you have
| been using usenet for 15 years and don't realize that "alt" groups dont
| have charters you prove the truth of the adage that "there is no fool
| like an old fool."
|
| Jon
| "Jon Splane" wrote in message ...
| | Gee Dave,
| |
| | Perhaps you could point us to this alledged charter. If alt.fishing
| | has one it will be the first group in the "alt" hierarchy that I have
| | seen with a charter. I hope you get over your overbearing ignorance
| | soon.
| |
| | Jon

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 04:11:01 -0800, Jon Splane wrote:

|Snipped)

Dave,

How about if you put up or shut up. Point us to a charter to this
newgroup. You stated in two seperate posts responding to "ozemail" that
he was in violation of the charter of this newsgroup. You owe him an
apology for your flaming as you are clearly in error as to the existence
of a charter for this group.

It is not necessary for any newsgroup to have a charter for SPAM to be
considered a bad thing. Few charters have any means of enforcement
anyway. However, ISPs often will enforce their own terms of service
and those include general statements that can be construed to, "Don't
irritate the natives, particularly with advertising." Advertising (in
any way other than sig files) in conversational newsgroups is against
Nettiquette and Usenet conventions. If the advertiser's ISP is a
worthy one, they'll listen to complaints sent to them. People have
lost their accounts over it. Not a good thing if you have to go
through the hassle of moving your whole Web site to another provider.

In general, one time advertisements of personal items for sale are
acceptable in most groups. Depends on the users. In general,
commercial advertising is not okay.

Advertisers would be wise to consider whether or not it's a _good_
thing to **** off the people they're trying to sell things to. Then
again, I've only seen two SPAMmers with good enough Web sites to be
able to read them and only one of them had any decent merchandize.
Like SPAMmer, so product?
--
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