new to carp fishing - need tips.

In article , SS
wrote:
Ok - new to this carp fishing game.

went to a day ticket place (Fennes in Braintree Essex. (Hill and black

Sorry, don't know it.

pond)) and blanked two evenings on the trot.

Everyone does from time to time.

Tried boilies with PVA bagged pellets on a helicopter rig. (about 6-8
freebie boilies and a couple of dozen pellets in each bag)
tried hair rigged luncheon meat. (chucked out some freebie bits of meat in
a PVA bag too)
tried floating dog biscuits.. (they ate every one bar the one with the hook
in it)

Complicated:

Q. What does all that mean in English?
A. It means you've been reading too much and not watching the fish.

how would you recommend a newcomer to carp fishing go about getting 'em on
the bank.

I use one rod..

Wise

should I be fishing the deep water?
the margins?

Where are they feeding? Fish there.

am I not giving enough freebies?

No idea. Maybe you're using too many.

OK. Keep it simple until you find you need the extras.

Start with bread and worms. Tie a #6 hook to the end of the reel line,
nothing else.

If the fish are grubbing the bottom hook a worm by the middle and drop it
just in front of the fish. Don't scare it. Watch where the line cuts the
surface for signs of a bite.

If they are patrolling the surface or the extreme margins drop in half a
dozen or so breadcrusts close to the downwind banks where they will drift
hard into emergent or overhanging vegetation. Watch for signs of fish
taking them. Get into a position where you can -lower- a crust baited hook
into a similar position. Keep all the line off the surface but hold a foot
of loose line which you release to the fish if you get a take. As soon as
the loose line has gone strike and hold hard. It's wise to wear waterproof
clothing for this method.

If they are among lilypads or if there are too many ducks about for crust
fishing pinch a large breadflake on the hook and drop it against a lilly so
that the line runs over the top and holds the bait a few inches below the
surface (you can do this with other surface vegetation too) Watch the line
on the lily for bites, hit and hold here too, you mustn't let them get their
heads down. Throw the occasional flake into gaps between the lillies as
free samples.

(While beginning) If you cannot see what the carp are doing - go elsewhere
and fish for something else.

Cheerio,

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On Mon, 24 May 2004 02:14:00 +0100, "Derek.Moody"
wrote:

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pond)) and blanked two evenings on the trot.

Everyone does from time to time.
True.
Complicated:
Q. What does all that mean in English?
A. It means you've been reading too much and not watching the fish.
Very True.
I use one rod..
Wise
You are my Guru.

OK. Keep it simple until you find you need the extras.
Start with bread and worms. Tie a #6 hook to the end of the reel line,
nothing else.
? No hook length or float?

If the fish are grubbing the bottom hook a worm by the middle and drop it
just in front of the fish. Don't scare it. Watch where the line cuts the
surface for signs of a bite.

If they are patrolling the surface or the extreme margins drop in half a
dozen or so breadcrusts close to the downwind banks where they will drift
hard into emergent or overhanging vegetation. Watch for signs of fish
taking them. Get into a position where you can -lower- a crust baited hook
into a similar position. Keep all the line off the surface but hold a foot
of loose line which you release to the fish if you get a take. As soon as
the loose line has gone strike and hold hard. It's wise to wear waterproof
clothing for this method.
This sounds an interesting method, I have never caught anything with
bread.
Bye.

In article ,
Titus A Ducksass AKA Lou Simon (Just for Gran) Lucy Lastic for wrote:
On Mon, 24 May 2004 02:14:00 +0100, "Derek.Moody"
wrote:

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You are my Guru.

Now why do I find that so unnerving?

OK. Keep it simple until you find you need the extras.
Start with bread and worms. Tie a #6 hook to the end of the reel line,
nothing else.
? No hook length or float?

Just one knot, nothing to snag and no weakpoints.

This sounds an interesting method, I have never caught anything with
bread.

It's easily my most used bait. I sometimes go half a dozen trips without
taking any other bait.

Cheerio,

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Derek.Moody wrote:
:: In article , SS
:: wrote:
::: Ok - new to this carp fishing game.
:::
::: went to a day ticket place (Fennes in Braintree Essex. (Hill and
::: black
::
:: Sorry, don't know it.
::
::: pond)) and blanked two evenings on the trot.
::
:: Everyone does from time to time.
::
::: Tried boilies with PVA bagged pellets on a helicopter rig. (about
::: 6-8 freebie boilies and a couple of dozen pellets in each bag)
::: tried hair rigged luncheon meat. (chucked out some freebie bits of
::: meat in a PVA bag too)
::: tried floating dog biscuits.. (they ate every one bar the one with
::: the hook in it)
::
:: Complicated:
::
:: Q. What does all that mean in English?
:: A. It means you've been reading too much and not watching the fish.

PVA bags are a good idea in certain situations, the distance from the hook
to the leger weight is reduced to about four inches so that it fits inside
the bag, hook and bait in one corner, leger in the other.
Then you can fill the bag up with (dry) baits such as pellets, meat or corn
(rolled in groundbait dust) or anything else you like.
Lick the top edge of the bag and twirl it around to seal the package and
then launch it as far as you like.
It's the best way to get a piece of luncheon meat a long distance with a
handful of bait surrounding the hookbait........the bag melts after about
ten seconds.
I use them from time to time when the situation warrants it, but most of my
carp are caught (as you said) with no end tackle other than a hook, using a
piece of bread or pre-soaked dog biscuit.