TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS

Mr. Perez -

Anyone who knows anything about rod building knows that Tom K. is a
first class guy. He's provided so many things that we never had before
like a full size magazine and the very best internet rod building site
on the planet. His site is provided free for all of us to use and
enjoy and there's no other place that is as friendly or easy to use.
It's a class act all the way!

But there are some who try to take advantage of his generousity and
kindness. I guess you touched a nerve and he just had had enough. I
thought his response was a bit harsher than what you usually hear from
him but not out of line at all considering what some have tried to do
him and his board.

I think he was right to remove the post you made about the products of
a non sponsor and your own post was very harsh and uncalled for. That
sort of thing doesn't go down well on Tom's board and I'm glad he runs
a tight ship. I have a high regard for the many fine sponsors on his
board and he is right to protect them. After all they pay to provide
that board for all of us and we want it to stay just like it is.

You owe Tom an apology for posting a private email on a newsgroup. I
don't think he would do that to you but he is a professional.

John

John,

From your answer i can see you do not read the
as per sponsors pay more atten: when reading strings on the BB.

Its not a matter of agreement, its the point of free expression.
Thank you for yours.


Rodbuilders.org new motto:


~~~~~~~~ALL KNOWLEDGE WELCOME ON THIS BOARD EXCEPT FROM THOSE WITH
WHOM KIRKMAN HAS A PERSONAL VENDETTA~~~~~~~~~


Carry on.

bluestonerod

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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John,

From your answer i can see you do not read the
as per sponsors pay more atten: when reading strings on the BB.

Its not a matter of agreement, its the point of free expression.
Thank you for yours.


Rodbuilders.org new motto:


~~~~~~~~ALL KNOWLEDGE WELCOME ON THIS BOARD EXCEPT FROM THOSE WITH
WHOM KIRKMAN HAS A PERSONAL VENDETTA~~~~~~~~~


Carry on.

bluestonerod

You can not expect free expression on a monitored board, or even on this
one. If you go beyond the limits of what somebody finds acceptable, and
they manage to contact and convince your ISP of the same, then not only do
you lose your "free expression", but also your access to usenet or the
internet.

It does not matter whether you are right or wrong. Except to you, and
perhaps a few others.

Publishing your annoyance, or attempting to gain some sort of revenge on the
purported pepetrator, on other boards, is also likely to prove extremely
contra.productive. Quite apart from getting some other people who are
basically not interested, annoyed at you. Believe me, it is really just a
waste of time and effort. Some things are as they are, one is obliged to
accept them, or at least is best served in doing so.

TL
MC

(Bluestone) wrote in news:2ca942b0.0312071245.6e1d53a3
@posting.google.com:

Its not a matter of agreement, its the point of free expression.
Thank you for yours.



And where were you guaranteed free expression on somebody elses forum?

I am not a rodbuilder, and don't know any of the companies or people
involved. I do recognize that this guy Kirkman could have used the
opportunity to use your thread to re-post the problems he's had with this
guy in the past, and didn't.

Scott

Scott Seidman wrote in message .1.4...
(Bluestone) wrote in news:2ca942b0.0312071245.6e1d53a3
@posting.google.com:

Its not a matter of agreement, its the point of free expression.
Thank you for yours.



And where were you guaranteed free expression on somebody elses forum?

I am not a rodbuilder, and don't know any of the companies or people
involved. I do recognize that this guy Kirkman could have used the
opportunity to use your thread to re-post the problems he's had with this
guy in the past, and didn't.

Scott
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Scott,
Thank you for your response, well taken.

Happy Holidays,
Bluestonerod

"Bluestone" wrote in message
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Scott,
Thank you for your response, well taken.

Happy Holidays,
Bluestonerod

How sweet.

Op --plonkeded--

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message link.net...
"Bluestone" wrote in message
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Scott,
Thank you for your response, well taken.

Happy Holidays,
Bluestonerod

How sweet.

Op --plonkeded--
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Guy,
Your the typical chatter these days on excite chat.
Try a complete sentence

Anyhow guys and gals have a lovely happy holiday,
bluestonerod

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
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"Bluestone" wrote in message
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Scott,
Thank you for your response, well taken.

Happy Holidays,
Bluestonerod

How sweet.

Op --plonkeded--
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Guy,
Your the typical chatter these days on excite chat.
Try a complete sentence

Anyhow guys and gals have a lovely happy holiday,
bluestonerod

You´re sweet!

Apostrophically and orthographically challenged, and about ten pounds
lighter than a candyman´s balloon, but sweet!

MC

Mr. Perez:

I believe you have made some very bad assumptions about how internet
rod building forums operate.

Boards cost money and most rely on sponsors for funding. Now if a
non-sponsor can get advertising and promotion at no charge on those
boards, then those who are sponsors will stop paying a fee to be
sponsors. At that point, the money runs out and the board shuts down.

Tom Kirkman has the finest internet rod building board there is. He
has done us all a good deed to create this wonderful site where more
rod building information is exchanged than anywhere else. If his
sponsors get mad and leave, then the board will shut down and we will
lose the #1 rod building site on the internet.

Boards that are not moderated are hateful cesspools of arguments and
problems. Tom's board runs smooth as silk because he has set some
rules and is quick to enforce them. I applaud his sense of fairness
but realize he has to protect the interest of his sponsors. They pay
for the board and are entitled to preferential treatment.

There are also a small handful of troublemakers that he is right to
keep out. They have ruined other boards and no one wants a repeat of
that at rodbuilding.org.

I hope you will send Tom an apology. He's a super friendly guy and
I'm sure he'll be willing to overlook your mistake.

Best of luck to you.

Aurthur Mercer