Giving up on Daiwa spincasters..

Two suggestions. Look back at Zebco, and work on your technique. Not sure
why you want a short rod for this. I do pretty well using pitching
techniques around docks with a 7' spinning rod.

I really can't tell you about the Omega, but I own several cheap Zebco 33s.

I can even pitch a crank bait this way and drop it between the floats under
a dock from 60 or 70 feet. Of course baits that bounce like a light spoon
or a plastic tube may be better and get farther under the dock. I could use
a little more practice, but pitching can be a really effective short to
medium rang presentation. On flipping tackle I can often make a long range
pitch and swing the rod from one side to the other to make a bait curve
around an obstackle. That is really handy for making a bait cut under the
corner of a dock.

I even found myself pitching a topwater the other day becasue the guy I was
fishing with was keeping the boat a little close for me to cast comfortably.
It worked great.

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"ROBMURR" wrote in message
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Well I wanted a spincaster on a short rod to work docks with.
Have an old Zebco, and a few ancient Johnson reels that cast
very well but drag was not the greatest on them..
I wanted something better, thought Daiwa was the way to go.
Tried all these:
Daiwa Silvercast 100
Daiwa Silvercast 80
Daiwa Procaster 100
Daiwa Procaster 80
Daiwa Undercast 80
Daiwa Goldcast 80GC
All of these with the exception of the $50 80GC gave me troubles,
but that was borrowed and I did not get to try it as long as I wanted.

On a long cast these reels would suddenly decide that it went far enough
and the rotor pin pops out and stops the line either breaking off your
lure or sending it back at you like a missle. Contacted Daiwa, no help
there...They suggested new line...It WAS new line! I cant respool on
every 5th cast.
On some of these the line would get hung in the gap between
the spool and rotor requireing some time to fix it. All reels were brand
new with original line on them.
The 80GC has an oscillating spool to keep the line from winding wrong
and it gave me no trouble..but still has the same design as the others
that did give me trouble(big gap between rotor and spool catching line).

Now I am leaning towards the new Zebco Omega all metal model with
interchangable oscilating spool reel with 6 bearings in it.

Thanks for the suggestions.
A lot of my docks have roofs over them
and some have roll down doors so I have
to get low and sling the bait back as far
as I can. That why I like the shorter rod.

Try pitching. The bait sails along very close to the water when done
properly

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"ROBMURR" wrote in message
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Thanks for the suggestions.
A lot of my docks have roofs over them
and some have roll down doors so I have
to get low and sling the bait back as far
as I can. That why I like the shorter rod.

Try pitching. The bait sails along very close to the water when done
properly

Ok, when I get a decent reel again I
will give pitching a try.
Just put one of my old Johnson Crappie
pro reels on my rod and wow does that
thing ever cast far and smooth after a
little bit of TLC..
but it really has no usable drag system
on it....

I have much more serious spinning gear
for larger fish, dont worry. This is for use
around docks, overhanging trees, etc
where I need control. Mostly for panfish
but bass are welcome too.
Also for use by less experience folks
who might want to wet a hook.
Just looked at the broken drag on my Johnson crappie pro and a metal piece
was bent wrong, bent it back and it
works great now.

I hate to say it, but the only thing that works with less experienced
anglers is patience, education, and practice. I personally think a spinning
reel gives me better control in those circumstances, but there are many here
that feel a baitcaster give more control than anything. I doubt I would
consider a spincast reel for control. It is probably the easiest to learn
to use for open water casting, but for tight quarters it would not be my
first choice.

All of that being said, I have fished a couple times with Dave Greaves who
fishes spincasters for almost everything. He is an excellent angler and has
finished well in all of the local club and semi /pro tournaments he has
fished. I have seen him throw heavy buzz baits with no problem. He flips
heavy cover with 20lb Steren big game on a spincaster as well. Its pretty
amazing.

There are guys who are amazed at how well I can toss a bait underneath heavy
overhangs with a side armed cast on a spinning rod. If I try to pitch I can
do that too, but since I learned to pitch with a baitcaster I seem to do
that better with a 7'+ flippin stick. Weird huh?

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"ROBMURR" wrote in message
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I have much more serious spinning gear
for larger fish, dont worry. This is for use
around docks, overhanging trees, etc
where I need control. Mostly for panfish
but bass are welcome too.
Also for use by less experience folks
who might want to wet a hook.
Just looked at the broken drag on my Johnson crappie pro and a metal piece
was bent wrong, bent it back and it
works great now.

I pitch with a spinning rig, and could care less about conforming to style
or anything else.

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(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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I hate to say it, but the only thing that works with less experienced
anglers is patience, education, and practice. I personally think a
spinning
reel gives me better control in those circumstances, but there are many
here
that feel a baitcaster give more control than anything. I doubt I would
consider a spincast reel for control. It is probably the easiest to learn
to use for open water casting, but for tight quarters it would not be my
first choice.

All of that being said, I have fished a couple times with Dave Greaves who
fishes spincasters for almost everything. He is an excellent angler and
has
finished well in all of the local club and semi /pro tournaments he has
fished. I have seen him throw heavy buzz baits with no problem. He flips
heavy cover with 20lb Steren big game on a spincaster as well. Its pretty
amazing.

There are guys who are amazed at how well I can toss a bait underneath
heavy
overhangs with a side armed cast on a spinning rod. If I try to pitch I
can
do that too, but since I learned to pitch with a baitcaster I seem to do
that better with a 7'+ flippin stick. Weird huh?

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"ROBMURR" wrote in message
...
I have much more serious spinning gear
for larger fish, dont worry. This is for use
around docks, overhanging trees, etc
where I need control. Mostly for panfish
but bass are welcome too.
Also for use by less experience folks
who might want to wet a hook.
Just looked at the broken drag on my Johnson crappie pro and a metal
piece
was bent wrong, bent it back and it
works great now.

I pitch with a spinning rig, and could care less about conforming to style
or anything else.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
I hate to say it, but the only thing that works with less experienced
anglers is patience, education, and practice. I personally think a
spinning
reel gives me better control in those circumstances, but there are many
here
that feel a baitcaster give more control than anything. I doubt I would
consider a spincast reel for control. It is probably the easiest to learn
to use for open water casting, but for tight quarters it would not be my
first choice.

All of that being said, I have fished a couple times with Dave Greaves who
fishes spincasters for almost everything. He is an excellent angler and
has
finished well in all of the local club and semi /pro tournaments he has
fished. I have seen him throw heavy buzz baits with no problem. He flips
heavy cover with 20lb Steren big game on a spincaster as well. Its pretty
amazing.

There are guys who are amazed at how well I can toss a bait underneath
heavy
overhangs with a side armed cast on a spinning rod. If I try to pitch I
can
do that too, but since I learned to pitch with a baitcaster I seem to do
that better with a 7'+ flippin stick. Weird huh?

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"ROBMURR" wrote in message
...
I have much more serious spinning gear
for larger fish, dont worry. This is for use
around docks, overhanging trees, etc
where I need control. Mostly for panfish
but bass are welcome too.
Also for use by less experience folks
who might want to wet a hook.
Just looked at the broken drag on my Johnson crappie pro and a metal
piece
was bent wrong, bent it back and it
works great now.

Try pitching. The bait sails along very close to the water when done
properly

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"ROBMURR" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the suggestions.
A lot of my docks have roofs over them
and some have roll down doors so I have
to get low and sling the bait back as far
as I can. That why I like the shorter rod.