Outboard Jet

I recently picked up a Waco 2050-16
http://www.alohapontoons.com/205016.html
Yes I bought it with the options that upgrade to 50HP rating.

I have a 50HP Force that I bought for another project. Don't know if it is
any good. I bought it cheap and it has sat in my shop for almost a year
still in the crate.

Anyway, if the Force doesn't check out I was thinking of looking for a jet.
I see Mercury has a 40HP outboard jet.
http://www.mercurymarine.com/mercury_jet_40
That might be able to push it ok, but after I get the boat fully rigged I
would sure like to have a little extra margin. Also, since jets are less
efficient than prop drives I'm not sure I want to take that big of a
backward step.

Does anybody know of a current 50HP jet? How about a conversion for another
popular outboard. Better yet, if my Force checks out, how about a
conversion for it?

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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I recently picked up a Waco 2050-16
http://www.alohapontoons.com/205016.html
Yes I bought it with the options that upgrade to 50HP rating.

I have a 50HP Force that I bought for another project. Don't know if it is
any good. I bought it cheap and it has sat in my shop for almost a year
still in the crate.

Anyway, if the Force doesn't check out I was thinking of looking for a jet.
I see Mercury has a 40HP outboard jet.
http://www.mercurymarine.com/mercury_jet_40
That might be able to push it ok, but after I get the boat fully rigged I
would sure like to have a little extra margin. Also, since jets are less
efficient than prop drives I'm not sure I want to take that big of a
backward step.

Does anybody know of a current 50HP jet? How about a conversion for another
popular outboard. Better yet, if my Force checks out, how about a
conversion for it?

I seriously doubt if you're going to find a jet conversion for a Force outboard. Several years ago,
two friends of mine had identical Tuffy Marauder boats (16'9" hulls), one was powered by a Mariner
40 hp, the other by a Yamaha 75 with a jet drive lower unit.

The 40 hp propped outboard outperformed the 75 jet in getting on plane sooner and in top end. I
don't think you're going to be pleased with a 40-50 hp jet drive unit.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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I recently picked up a Waco 2050-16
http://www.alohapontoons.com/205016.html
Yes I bought it with the options that upgrade to 50HP rating.

I have a 50HP Force that I bought for another project. Don't know if it
is
any good. I bought it cheap and it has sat in my shop for almost a year
still in the crate.

Anyway, if the Force doesn't check out I was thinking of looking for a
jet.
I see Mercury has a 40HP outboard jet.
http://www.mercurymarine.com/mercury_jet_40
That might be able to push it ok, but after I get the boat fully rigged
I
would sure like to have a little extra margin. Also, since jets are
less
efficient than prop drives I'm not sure I want to take that big of a
backward step.

Does anybody know of a current 50HP jet? How about a conversion for
another
popular outboard. Better yet, if my Force checks out, how about a
conversion for it?

I seriously doubt if you're going to find a jet conversion for a Force
outboard. Several years ago,
two friends of mine had identical Tuffy Marauder boats (16'9" hulls), one
was powered by a Mariner
40 hp, the other by a Yamaha 75 with a jet drive lower unit.

The 40 hp propped outboard outperformed the 75 jet in getting on plane
sooner and in top end. I
don't think you're going to be pleased with a 40-50 hp jet drive unit.
--

I know about performance. If I just want to go fats the Baker Tunnel Hull
with the 200hp FI Merc will do the job. I am looking for a good shallow
water boat. I'm sure you are right that I won't be too happy witht he
performance, but its worth investigating all avenues.


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www.YumaBassMan.com
All about fishing in Yuma, Arizona
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Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

The rating listed on the jet motors from everyone is the brake horsepower
not the true jet hp, for that you add 20%, or subtract 20% if you want the
real work horsepower. Up here in the Pacific Northwest we are having some
trouble getting jets for larger boats, it seems some dumb ass had a 200 hp
tiller jet and ran it hard enough aground to kill himself, so Yamaha and
Mercury (share the same power heads) decided to stop somewhere in the 40 -
50 hp range and we're waiting for the shoe to drop on the other
manufacturers.

With a 50HP motor and the Jet attached it will perform like a 30 HP motor on
most boats.



"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news
I recently picked up a Waco 2050-16
http://www.alohapontoons.com/205016.html
Yes I bought it with the options that upgrade to 50HP rating.

I have a 50HP Force that I bought for another project. Don't know if it
is
any good. I bought it cheap and it has sat in my shop for almost a year
still in the crate.

Anyway, if the Force doesn't check out I was thinking of looking for a
jet.
I see Mercury has a 40HP outboard jet.
http://www.mercurymarine.com/mercury_jet_40
That might be able to push it ok, but after I get the boat fully rigged I
would sure like to have a little extra margin. Also, since jets are less
efficient than prop drives I'm not sure I want to take that big of a
backward step.

Does anybody know of a current 50HP jet? How about a conversion for
another
popular outboard. Better yet, if my Force checks out, how about a
conversion for it?

--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com
All about fishing in Yuma, Arizona
Promote Your Fishing Website FOR FREE

www.DiyComponents.com
Buy professional quality components for
DIY Projects

He's right, and jets don't maneuver or backup worth a crap at slow speeds,
and anything on the surface of the water at speed or gravel bars while not
at speed will ruin your whole day, impellers are between $250 to $500
dollars installed and you have to grease them with special grease after
every run.

Maybe on a jetski. My 21' aluminum jetboat actually maneuvers fairly well
at slow speed, Just have to understand the characteristics. Does not troll
well as you have to drive the boat 100% of the time at slow speed. Gravel
bars and crap on the surface are the reason to run a jet. The prop boats
really have a bad day with gravel bars and stuff on the surface. I have
felt a little stupid parked on a gravel bar in the middle of the Sacramento
River. Takes a little help to get the boat off, then I pry the extra gravel
out of the jet intake grate. Go boating. As to greasing the impeller,
never heard of that on an o/b jet. My inboard, I just shoot some grease in
to the zerk fitting on the thrust bearing a couple of times a year.
Impellers may be $500 but I am still on my 1991 stainless impellers, and I
have 3 of them in the 3 stage Kodiak jet. Have had to change the kicker
prop. About $75 for a 15 hp Mariner I used to use.
Bill

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He's right, and jets don't maneuver or backup worth a crap at slow speeds,
and anything on the surface of the water at speed or gravel bars while not
at speed will ruin your whole day, impellers are between $250 to $500
dollars installed and you have to grease them with special grease after
every run.

Next time you see an O/B jet look at the foot and you'll see a hose making a
loop on the side, you disconnect that to grease you bearings than
reinstall. The O/B impellers are aluminum, usually stock, and gravel peens
the sharp impeller edges over and cuts down on it's efficiency, you can
take them off and sharpen them again, but the S/S impellers last longer,
but do vibrate a little more I think due to the weight increase. One thing
I've noticed is that my O/B doesn't cavitate near as much as my buds I/B.
The split clamshell that is on most I/B's is much more efficient when
backing up and during slow speed maneuvering because of the three impellers
and their in line flow characteristics.