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  #1  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:23 AM
Richard Liebert
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The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!








  #2  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM
Richard Liebert
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Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm



"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag

helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking

the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will

help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a

study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!










  #3  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:38 AM
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


  #4  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 05:11 PM
Bob Rickard
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Hey folks. Do you realize that the fact that we are finding no consensus
solution here is because there is no real solution to the damage caused by
the use of hooks. Perhaps what we need to do is to get rid of hooks
altogether? Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box here? Heck...
maybe we need to burn the darned box all together.

What if we were to replace hooks with pieces of Velcro, and instead of being
hooked, the fish just get their teeth tangled up in this harmless material.
And if that doesn't work, perhaps a small squeeze bottle of crazy glue could
get them stuck to the lure, where a solvent could later be used to release
them unharmed. Just think: you would never have to waste valuable time
sharpening your Velcro or your glue!

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))





"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Richard Liebert" wrote in

message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced

me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




  #5  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 07:31 PM
Scott Seidman
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"Bob Rickard" wrote in news:FGRLc.4769$ZN4.4233
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


I wonder if gut hooking is the biggest mortality factor at bass events?

http://www.sdafs.org/tcafs/meetings/96meet/gillilan.htm


Scott
  #6  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 09:27 PM
Doc \(The Tin Boat King\)
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I'm all for catch and release but if I hook one deep enough that I can't get the hook out I cut the line and retreve the hook when
I'm cleaning him for the grill. Problem solved. Doc
================================================== ================
"Bob Rickard" wrote in message m...
Hey folks. Do you realize that the fact that we are finding no consensus
solution here is because there is no real solution to the damage caused by
the use of hooks. Perhaps what we need to do is to get rid of hooks
altogether? Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box here? Heck...
maybe we need to burn the darned box all together.

What if we were to replace hooks with pieces of Velcro, and instead of being
hooked, the fish just get their teeth tangled up in this harmless material.
And if that doesn't work, perhaps a small squeeze bottle of crazy glue could
get them stuck to the lure, where a solvent could later be used to release
them unharmed. Just think: you would never have to waste valuable time
sharpening your Velcro or your glue!

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))





"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Richard Liebert" wrote in

message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced

me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com






  #7  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 10:22 PM
Rob Storm
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Bob -- if memory serves, someone actually did add velcro to bass plugs a few
years ago. Maybe RichZ can remember who the manufacturer was. As I recall the
idea was that the velcro was to work as a sort of "hookerhelper" just to give
you a little edge in landing a fish. Don't know how it worked as I never tried
one.

Course, the same principle works well for gar when you throw a piece of frayed
rope as a lure and the gar gets his incisors all tangled up.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com
  #8  
Old July 23rd, 2004, 12:12 AM
RichZ
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Rob wrote:
Maybe RichZ can remember who the manufacturer was.


Cordell had the plugs with the Velcro strips/dots on them. It was supposed
to get stuck long enough for you to set the hooks. Also, I'm pretty sure it
was Lindy that had fuzz covered jig heads that were supposed to get stuck
to the bass' teeth.

I thought of the rope for gar too. We actually fish braided nylon "Soft
jerk baits" for gar every now and then up at Champlain.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

  #9  
Old July 23rd, 2004, 01:10 AM
Bob Rickard
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Darn, Rich... you & Rob have me looking for that box again.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
Maybe RichZ can remember who the manufacturer was.


Cordell had the plugs with the Velcro strips/dots on them. It was supposed
to get stuck long enough for you to set the hooks. Also, I'm pretty sure

it
was Lindy that had fuzz covered jig heads that were supposed to get stuck
to the bass' teeth.

I thought of the rope for gar too. We actually fish braided nylon "Soft
jerk baits" for gar every now and then up at Champlain.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing



  #10  
Old July 23rd, 2004, 01:10 AM
Bob Rickard
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Default Swallowed Hooks

Darn, Rich... you & Rob have me looking for that box again.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
Maybe RichZ can remember who the manufacturer was.


Cordell had the plugs with the Velcro strips/dots on them. It was supposed
to get stuck long enough for you to set the hooks. Also, I'm pretty sure

it
was Lindy that had fuzz covered jig heads that were supposed to get stuck
to the bass' teeth.

I thought of the rope for gar too. We actually fish braided nylon "Soft
jerk baits" for gar every now and then up at Champlain.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing



 




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