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  #21  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:23 AM
Richard Liebert
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The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!








  #22  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM
Richard Liebert
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Default Swallowed Hooks

Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm



"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag

helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking

the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will

help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a

study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!










  #23  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM
Richard Liebert
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Default Swallowed Hooks

Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm



"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag

helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking

the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will

help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a

study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!










  #24  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:17 AM
IBNFSHN
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What is wrong with taking it home and eating it. That 3 pounder just might
eat a 3 ouncer that is destined to grow up to be a 33 pounder. One never
knows.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that
3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!






  #25  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:17 AM
IBNFSHN
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Default Swallowed Hooks

What is wrong with taking it home and eating it. That 3 pounder just might
eat a 3 ouncer that is destined to grow up to be a 33 pounder. One never
knows.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that
3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!






  #26  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:33 AM
Rob Storm
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Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at
Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best
warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph
in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about
black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research
and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told
me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most
fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been
practicing barbless bassing ever since.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com
  #27  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:33 AM
Rob Storm
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Default Swallowed Hooks

Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at
Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best
warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph
in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about
black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research
and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told
me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most
fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been
practicing barbless bassing ever since.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com
  #28  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:38 AM
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


  #29  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 03:38 AM
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


  #30  
Old July 22nd, 2004, 07:50 AM
John
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Great question! Has anyone got any links to any scientific studies that
were made which showed mortality rate outcomes from various hook removal
choices?

Thanks.
John

"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!




 




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