ot casting reels

Richz
I said the bail jerks open momentarily. It then closes but it is quite a
jerking action. The fish pulls harder than the drag will allow and the reel
goes into a backreeling mode. I don't have the anti-reverse engaged because the
line would snap and i would surely lose the fish, The reel is a shimano spirex
2000

Gone wrote:
I don't have the anti-reverse engaged because the
line would snap and i would surely lose the fish,


If you don't have the anti reverse engaged, then you should backreel, and
not rely on the drag at all. Pretty near every fish I've caught on spinning
tackle in the past 30 years or so has been caught with the anti-reverse
disengaged, and the drag tight. Whether I'm using 2 pound test or 20
(actually, I very rarely use anything over 6 lb on spinning gear), whether
the fish are crappies and perch, bass, pike, steelhead, brown trout,
atlantic salmon, bluefish, stripers, even bonito. That's the way I
play/fight fish. The drag never comes into play, except for grudgingly
giving a hair on an exceptionally hard hook set.

As far as the bail snapping open, that can ONLY happen if the line's not in
the line roller, the bail's badly bent or not completely closed, or the
bail spring is shot. The geometry of the bail/roller/pivot is such that if
the line is in the roller, the harder you pull on it, the harder it holds
the bail closed.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Rich, where ever you are at the moment, turn around very slowly and just
BANG YOUR HEAD into the nearest wall.
;-))

"RichZ" wrote in message
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Gone wrote:
I don't have the anti-reverse engaged because the
line would snap and i would surely lose the fish,


If you don't have the anti reverse engaged, then you should backreel, and
not rely on the drag at all. Pretty near every fish I've caught on
spinning
tackle in the past 30 years or so has been caught with the anti-reverse
disengaged, and the drag tight. Whether I'm using 2 pound test or 20
(actually, I very rarely use anything over 6 lb on spinning gear), whether
the fish are crappies and perch, bass, pike, steelhead, brown trout,
atlantic salmon, bluefish, stripers, even bonito. That's the way I
play/fight fish. The drag never comes into play, except for grudgingly
giving a hair on an exceptionally hard hook set.

As far as the bail snapping open, that can ONLY happen if the line's not
in
the line roller, the bail's badly bent or not completely closed, or the
bail spring is shot. The geometry of the bail/roller/pivot is such that if
the line is in the roller, the harder you pull on it, the harder it holds
the bail closed.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Rich, spit the hook...

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Gone wrote:
I don't have the anti-reverse engaged because the
line would snap and i would surely lose the fish,


If you don't have the anti reverse engaged, then you should backreel, and
not rely on the drag at all. Pretty near every fish I've caught on
spinning
tackle in the past 30 years or so has been caught with the anti-reverse
disengaged, and the drag tight. Whether I'm using 2 pound test or 20
(actually, I very rarely use anything over 6 lb on spinning gear), whether
the fish are crappies and perch, bass, pike, steelhead, brown trout,
atlantic salmon, bluefish, stripers, even bonito. That's the way I
play/fight fish. The drag never comes into play, except for grudgingly
giving a hair on an exceptionally hard hook set.

As far as the bail snapping open, that can ONLY happen if the line's not
in
the line roller, the bail's badly bent or not completely closed, or the
bail spring is shot. The geometry of the bail/roller/pivot is such that if
the line is in the roller, the harder you pull on it, the harder it holds
the bail closed.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Richz
This fish is not anyone of the one's you mentioned. It's a Chinook (ot). If i
waited to back reel with a tight drag. The line would snap the fish and/or the
lure would likely be gone.

It's a Chinook

Ahhhh, now it all makes sense.

I have a spirex 4000 and did find that it handles better for bigger fish. The
2000 (spirex) is attractive to me because of it's lighter weight. I have even
used my 1000 (spirex). Spirex is my committed brand of reel on account of it's
trigger system,

Gone wrote:
This fish is not anyone of the one's you mentioned. It's a Chinook (ot).

I've not had the opportunity to catch a Chinook with spinning tackle. But the
backreeling procedure would be no different. I can pretty much guarantee you
that a bonito (false albacore) pulls faster.

If i
waited to back reel with a tight drag. The line would snap the fish and/or the
lure would likely be gone.

What does the word WAIT have to do with backreeling?


RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

"RichZ" wrote in message ...
Gone wrote:
This fish is not anyone of the one's you mentioned. It's a Chinook (ot).

I've not had the opportunity to catch a Chinook with spinning tackle. But the
backreeling procedure would be no different. I can pretty much guarantee you
that a bonito (false albacore) pulls faster.

I've caught hundreds of Chinook salmon and they don't pull any harder or faster than the Atlantics
that you've already caught, definitely not more than the bonito. I used to fish them with my
walleye spinning tackle, a 7' medium light spinning rod and a reel with less line capacity than the
Spirex 2000. Even spooled with 10 pound test mono, I landed Chinooks up to 32 pounds. I rarely
broke a fish off and was only spooled twice by fish that were considerably larger than the 32
pounder that I did land.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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You can also get spooled by a foul hooked fish. They swim stronger and faster
and you don't have the leaverage to turn them around.