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Old August 10th, 2004, 02:44 AM
Rodney
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Did you happen to watch Dubya on the Roland Martin show ?

Seems our Chief Executive catches bass and then lets his
dog chew them to death instead of releasing them.

If you didn't catch it the first time, it will air again
on the Outdoor Life Network. Go here and follow the links
for air times, the episode is called "The Executive Pond."

http://www.fishingwithrolandmartin.com/


So what, looks like a smart thing to so

It's his pond, it's over stocked with bass, and everyone knows you take
out the little bass caught on a small pond,, I know many pond owners
that just throw them up on the bank, and tell you to do the same thing
when you fish their ponds . The state fish biologist tell them to do this.

You can't C&R every bass in a pound,, you will have nothing but dinks in it


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Old August 10th, 2004, 03:06 AM
Craig
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Problem was, it was a dink. An undersized bass. Is our President above the
law?

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Old August 10th, 2004, 03:20 AM
Rodney
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Craig wrote:

Problem was, it was a dink. An undersized bass. Is our President above the
law?


The problem is

You don't understand fish & game laws

If I owned a pond,, I can catch and cook/throw away, 200 bass out of
that pond in a single day, and have broken no laws. I could even drain
that pond killing every fish in it, and have broken no laws.

Farm ponds and lakes are not under limit laws of the states

Limit laws are for the maintaining of species in "public" waters

WHat part of

" This lake is on my ranch"

"I Built this lake 4 years ago "

"I stocked this lake"

"the fish biologist that checks this lake twice a year tells us to
remove all undersize bass"

Did you not understand
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Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
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Old August 10th, 2004, 03:42 AM
Craig
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In Michigan, my pond or my lake means I own the hole, but once water enters
that hole, the state of Michigan has regulation over the water and the
wildlife that is in it or on it. I can maintain it (meaning I can stock it
how I please), but if the state HAS any knowledge of that pond, limit laws
can be enforced and it can never be drained without DEQ's permission - under
the laws that govern wetlands.




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Old August 10th, 2004, 03:49 AM
Charles B. Summers
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I believe the same thing applies to farmlands and hunting. So if I own 500
acres... can I legally harvest deer from there 365 days a year? Nope!


"Craig" wrote in message
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In Michigan, my pond or my lake means I own the hole, but once water

enters
that hole, the state of Michigan has regulation over the water and the
wildlife that is in it or on it. I can maintain it (meaning I can stock

it
how I please), but if the state HAS any knowledge of that pond, limit laws
can be enforced and it can never be drained without DEQ's permission -

under
the laws that govern wetlands.




--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!




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Old August 10th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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I believe the same thing applies to farmlands and hunting. So if I own 500
acres... can I legally harvest deer from there 365 days a year? Nope!

Actually Charles, you can! If you have that 500 acres totally surrounded by
fence, there were no deer there to begin with, and you paid for the deer
that are now in there, you can hunt deer 365 days a year.

High fence operations do that all the time. AND, you don't need to have a
hunter's safety certificate, a hunting licence and you can use any weapon
that your little ol' heart desires.
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Old August 10th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Rodney
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Charles B. Summers wrote:
I believe the same thing applies to farmlands and hunting. So if I own 500
acres... can I legally harvest deer from there 365 days a year? Nope!


Only if it is high fenced off so no wild deer can come onto the land,
and all deer there, you legally put on your land (imported), there are
no native deer there. (native wild deer are property of the state, as
they were not yours to start with, neither are their young, even if you
fence them in)

When a person builds a pound there is nothing there, everything must be
purchased and stocked by the land owner,, these are no longer wild
stock, the land owner owns the pound the water and everything in it,,
this is true for Texas, and for Alabama, it might not be true for
communist states (where the state claims ownership of anything they want to)

WHy argue with me about this ,, just look it up

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Rodney Long,
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Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
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Old August 10th, 2004, 08:12 PM
RGarri7470
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I believe the same thing applies to farmlands and hunting.

Game animals and birds are different. They can move from one property to
another. Fish in my pond ain't likely to show up a mile away in public water.
Maybe if the is a big flood, but not normally.
Ronnie

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Old August 10th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Jeff
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That's not exactly true. Look at what pheasant farms do for dog training.
You can hunt pheasant on those farms all year long. Deer can be hunted the
same way with a fence if you bought and paid for the deer assuming no deer
were in place to begin with. It is possible that these laws very from state
to state. I am pretty certain that in Ohio, if the pond does not drain into
public waters, you can do whatever you want.

Jeff


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
news
I believe the same thing applies to farmlands and hunting. So if I own 500
acres... can I legally harvest deer from there 365 days a year? Nope!


"Craig" wrote in message
news:ACWRc.100687$8_6.30108@attbi_s04...
In Michigan, my pond or my lake means I own the hole, but once water

enters
that hole, the state of Michigan has regulation over the water and the
wildlife that is in it or on it. I can maintain it (meaning I can stock

it
how I please), but if the state HAS any knowledge of that pond, limit

laws
can be enforced and it can never be drained without DEQ's permission -

under
the laws that govern wetlands.




--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!






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Old August 11th, 2004, 09:58 PM
Calif Bill
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Depends on the state. Licensed bird clubs here (Calif.) can shoot about 9
months a year. They also have to release some amount more of the birds than
they shoot.
Bill

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
That's not exactly true. Look at what pheasant farms do for dog training.
You can hunt pheasant on those farms all year long. Deer can be hunted

the
same way with a fence if you bought and paid for the deer assuming no deer
were in place to begin with. It is possible that these laws very from

state
to state. I am pretty certain that in Ohio, if the pond does not drain

into
public waters, you can do whatever you want.

Jeff


"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
news
I believe the same thing applies to farmlands and hunting. So if I own

500
acres... can I legally harvest deer from there 365 days a year? Nope!


"Craig" wrote in message
news:ACWRc.100687$8_6.30108@attbi_s04...
In Michigan, my pond or my lake means I own the hole, but once water

enters
that hole, the state of Michigan has regulation over the water and the
wildlife that is in it or on it. I can maintain it (meaning I can

stock
it
how I please), but if the state HAS any knowledge of that pond, limit

laws
can be enforced and it can never be drained without DEQ's permission -

under
the laws that govern wetlands.




--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!








 




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